Hello, welcome to the Studio Demands It in Exercise in Creative Thinking where we will challenge ourselves to conceptualize, pitch, and craft a film based on the stipulations of a hypothetical Hollywood overlord. We talk movies all the time.
Jim:All the time.
T.C.:That's right. Are we gonna get a t shirt that just says, we talk movies all the time, all the time. We talk movies all the time, and we love to bitch about the choices made in the films that we've seen, working under the assumption that, of course, we could do better given what we can only assume or the restrictions placed upon the screenwriters and filmmakers that gave us the film we saw or the film we will see in the future, depending on what the demand might be.
Jim:I'm nodding.
T.C.:We Jim is nodding audibly. We will be your screenwriters for this episode. I am T. C. De Witt.
T.C.:And joining me as always is Jim going on 16 Burzelic.
Jim:Yep. What Inside jokes.
T.C.:Let let's let's make it an outside joke. How did we even get to I am 16 going? We were talking about creeps. No. Wait.
Jim:Yeah. We were.
T.C.:Maybe this isn't worth. Although we did come up with the asylum rip off title of Sound of Music. So if asylum existed in the sixties
Jim:And was making knock off movies or blockbusters It was from then.
T.C.:What was it? Teenage Nazi romance?
Jim:It was Nazi teenage romance.
T.C.:Nazi teenage romance. The Sound of Music rip off from asylum films in the sixties was there you go. But here we are. Let's let's this is what we do here so we get a demand from one of you beautiful listeners out there who then that we then take here on the spot somehow try to craft a film and hopefully a better one that than we got or a better one that we're getting. Thank you all for returning for yet another episode.
T.C.:Jim, thank you for joining me in this adventure. Yeah. Hi, Ben. Absolutely. Yeah.
T.C.:Okay. Yeah. I'm really full. You're full. You had
Jim:Full of food. Full of food.
T.C.:We Yeah. This episode brought to you by Five Guys. It's not, but we do eat Five Guys every time we get together. Yeah. And just to be clear for those nonregional folks, Five Guys is a burger place.
Jim:Yeah.
T.C.:Jim and I are not cannibals that we know of.
Jim:I can't Maybe that's what they're serving. Right? Because there's never Five Guys working there.
T.C.:There's only ever, like, two or so. Yeah. So how'd you guys name your company? We'd rather not discuss it. Speaking of musicals, Sweeney Todd.
T.C.:So Yeah. Why why
Jim:Meat pies.
T.C.:Meat meat pies. So Five Guys burgers is Sweeney Todd asylum knockoff?
Jim:Five Guys. Yeah. Five Guys and a Pie.
T.C.:Five Guys and a Pie. So let's let us see what what do we have for the listeners today. They already know. You don't. I have no idea.
T.C.:Okay. But I do because I prepared. Yeah. Okay. So coming from Jasper from Me Needy Speedy Pictures.
T.C.:In 2001, a point break rip off sped into our lives and made $200,000,000 on a 38,000,000 budget. In 2017, the seventh installment of this franchise became the third highest grossing movie of all time. What? By 2025, we will see the tenth film in this franchise. Actually, it's the eleventh because there was a spin off.
T.C.:The studio knee Me Needy Speedy Pictures demands that we come up with the final chapter of the Fast and the Furious La Familia. Every cast member is available, including Paul Walker's brothers, to keep Brian O'Connell in the series. Finish off this franchise. Jim, the studio demands a tenth Fast
Jim:and Furious. But not the one we're getting.
T.C.:Well, not the one we're getting. We don't know.
Jim:And and this one needs to be final.
T.C.:This is this is it. This is the the last. It says the final chapter.
Jim:Well, I know also, I I would like to nitpick that a spin off
T.C.:Mhmm.
Jim:Isn't doesn't necessarily fall into the numbering
T.C.:system. Okay.
Jim:Well,
T.C.:well it's So
Jim:if anything Mhmm. Hobbs and Shaw would be part part nine part two.
T.C.:Part nine part two. It's adjacent. Yeah. It's a side side sequel. Yeah.
T.C.:Side quest. Side quest. The one of we we've actually discussed Fast and Furious off mic many a times.
Jim:Yes.
T.C.:This franchise is the craziest damn thing.
Jim:It is.
T.C.:It's seriously, he's not wrong. It was Fast and Furious seven was the third highest grossing movie of all time. I think it's fifth now. That's crazy. That is.
T.C.:This franchise started in 2001 stealing it was a bunch of Yep. Of people stealing DVD players.
Jim:Yeah.
T.C.:I was reminding you of, like, the little nerdy white guy who, like, speeds off after the race war
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:And you didn't even remember I
Jim:don't. Still don't.
T.C.:Letty died. She came back. Han died. Apparently, he's coming back. Yep.
T.C.:We and if everyone's available, we have to assume Gal Gadot can come back too. Yep. Right? Mhmm. Jason Statham murdered a hospital full of people, and now he's a good guy.
T.C.:Yeah. Redeemed completely by by that baby fight
Jim:Oh, yeah.
T.C.:Fate and the Furious.
Jim:Yeah. He fought with a baby, not against it. And so people like it
T.C.:like him. But if he had fought the baby, it would have been very
Jim:very Yeah.
T.C.:The weird thing is about that seventh one being the that's not the best one. It's actually a little bit of a mess because of Paul Walker passing away
Jim:Sure.
T.C.:During production of that movie. Mhmm. It's not it's it's not, like, horrendous. And we can have a fight about Tokyo Drift if you want. Too fast, too furious is the worst.
Jim:I had sat down and watched all of them with a with a couple friends.
T.C.:Finn, who's been on the show before, Leah, who's been on the show before as well.
Jim:Yep. And I I ranked them, and I've forgotten my ranking. Ugh. I forgot the order that I put them in.
T.C.:Well, I I believe I've shared with you, but my my experience in falling in love with this franchise was very Stockholm syndrome. Because the first one came out and I was like, this is dumb. I'm not a car guy. I don't care. This is dumb.
T.C.:This is not a thing. Stop making it a thing. Mhmm. And then Too Fast, Too Fierious came out, and it was awful. It's so dumb.
T.C.:It's so dumb. It's just bad. Like, Tyrese is trying to be the funny guy. You're not the funny guy Yeah. Roaming.
Jim:So in our watching of it, I actually have it's not a it's not a good movie
T.C.:No.
Jim:But I have a a soft spot for it because we were able to make the joke, and then throughout all of it, we kept making Florida Man jokes.
T.C.:You're right. Yeah. Florida Man brings bucket and rat to bar.
Jim:Yes. Florida Man destroys a boat boat or like a dock Yeah. To to get cigar. Florida man harpoons police car in high speed freeway chase.
T.C.:So you're not wrong. Two Fast two Furious is wonderful for for making for laughing at making fun of. Yeah. And then Tokyo Drift came out. And now everyone likes to look at Tokyo Drift and point it as the the worst of the franchise, and it certainly is quite a bit different than the two we got previously.
Jim:Yeah. Because I I I I think it's really clear what they were they were trying to turn it they didn't know what to do with the original characters. Like, well, we're done here.
T.C.:We done it.
Jim:Let's yeah. Let's and they're getting older and let's try making it about a young kid again. And what other kind of cool racing can we do? Let's go across
T.C.:the world. Tokyo Driftin'.
Jim:And then that didn't work.
T.C.:No. It didn't. The I have I have an argument for the benefits of Tokyo Drift. I I I'm not gonna go into the whole thing about it now, but I do have a defense of Tokyo Drift in being screenwriting one zero one. Think it's a really good presentation of the monomyth.
T.C.:It's whatever. But that was it. It was, like, dead in the water after the first one, which proved my point at the time. Mhmm. I was like, see?
T.C.:That first one was whatever. It didn't matter they made $200,000,000. The second one was garbage. They couldn't get Vin Diesel back. It's just Paul Walker again.
T.C.:And then the third one couldn't even get Paul Walker back. So you get Lucas Black, just this this black hole of, like, charisma, which means he will never be on this show Yeah. As a guest. He's listening right now like, oh, man. I really like this show till they made fun of me.
T.C.:Yep. And and that was it. But then Fast and the Furious came out in this late two thousand first of the knots of Uh-huh. This this trend of soft rebooting. Uh-huh.
T.C.:Star Trek 2009 is a good example of that. It's like coming in and and just let's let's this is where you could start. Yeah. You could start here. And it was a good movie.
T.C.:It has a good it ripped off a couple other action franchises with, a parkour chase to open the movie. And Mhmm. It's it definitely upped the budget and the and and the special effects and the ridiculousness. And and this is when it started growing becoming a cartoon. Yeah.
T.C.:And it just kept going, making more money, becoming bigger and bigger.
Jim:What's it right. It's because wasn't that's when Justin Lin?
T.C.:Yes. Just Justin Lin came on with two with Tokyo Drift.
Jim:With Tokyo Drift. Okay.
T.C.:So they kept him on
Jim:That that can't be the evidence of that's what made it good.
T.C.:Well But
Jim:something something happened with that one where they I it's it's kinda like what you said, the soft reboot, where they looked at the franchise and they said, well, okay. What is this about other than Cars?
T.C.:Right. And then it became alternative. It's not Yeah. It's not about the racing necessarily. You you've you've stated it many a times and we've we've rolled with it.
T.C.:This is just Oh. Hot Hot Wheels the movie.
Jim:Oh, yeah. It definitely. Definitely Hot Wheels the movie. They they they make they make a point of making all of the cars very different and very colorful.
T.C.:Character specific.
Jim:Yeah. They they are they're they're they're toys. They're they're and especially especially when they then go and do, like, an aerial shot and you just see him driving on the road, like, you just imagine a big invisible kid moving the car with his hand. And and as the movies go, it just gets worse and worse.
T.C.:It it
Jim:defaults. My car jumps from the top of this building to the top of
T.C.:this other
Jim:building. No. It goes to the next building.
T.C.:Goes through the building, and then it goes through the next building. The the most the the first big full trailer that was released for nine was just the the culmination of two kids arguing over their Hot Wheels cars. Yeah. My car, it just drives right off the cliff, and then a plane swoops down and magnetizes the bottom, and it clicks it, and it flies away. Well, my car
Jim:Well Nuh-uh. Nuh-uh. Well, so instead, my car
T.C.:Yeah.
Jim:Flies off the edge, and then gets hooked on by by a hook, and it Tarzans Yeah. After your airplane car. Even
T.C.:Hobbs and Shaw is like and then my guy holds the helicopter.
Jim:Yeah.
T.C.:And then the cars all connect to each other, and it's like
Jim:It's a car train. It's a train made of cars, and it's in the sky.
T.C.:I'll tell you what. We'll watch one of the later films in the franchise and just talk like that through the whole movie. And then you get to see a girl's butt walk away.
Jim:No. This isn't face off. Oh, okay.
T.C.:There is a ton of there's a ton of ass shots Yeah.
Jim:There is.
T.C.:The entirety
Jim:of it. It it became something we would start each new movie and be like, okay, where's where's the butt shot? Soon do get gonna happen. Yeah.
T.C.:This has started with stealing DVD players and undercover cop trying to it's it's point break. It is it is point break. Yeah. It is just there's there's a young, cool
Jim:And there's a wave of cars.
T.C.:It's a wave of cars. Paul Walker is a water is a rebranded Keanu Reeves and
Jim:Vin Diesel is a rebranded Patrick Swayze?
T.C.:Swayze, of course. He's got the dance skills. Look it up. Look it up, Jim. Look up the breakdancing Vin Diesel video.
Jim:I I wanna see a now I wanna see a movie done like Dirty Dancing, but for breakdancing With Vin Diesel. With Vin Diesel.
T.C.:Boy. Well, okay. Let me let me let me it's I hope people can hear how endeared I am by this franchise because the the everything up to the point of not liking these movies. I got stuck in Atlanta at an airport overnight because of a hurricane, and I only had the entire franchise of Fast and the Furious movies on my tablet. That was your own doing, though.
T.C.:You put them on your tablet. I put them on there to watch them ironically, but then after the whole sitting in Atlanta for twelve hours, I was like, Jim, I live my life a quarter mile at a time. Chad picked me up at the airport, and I quoted the franchise for the next weekend. And I kept slipping into conversations like, well, you know, Chad, it's just, you know, it doesn't matter if you win by an insurer.
Jim:Oh, shut up. And
T.C.:I love this franchise knows exactly what it is. It embraces the ridiculousness of it. The multicultural cast is fantastic. Like, this is representation you don't see in Marvel Yeah. On the screen.
T.C.:And it's big, dumb, loud, and stupid Mhmm. In all the best ways possible.
Jim:Yeah. Abs absolutely.
T.C.:Yeah. So we have to now end this franchise. What End is. We've discussed where we think this is gonna go. I not not that we've Well,
Jim:I mean, if it's gonna be the end. I we we haven't discussed where it's gonna end.
T.C.:Yeah. Oh, Jim, I will pitch to you the final scene of the Fast and the Furious Deckology. I will pitch.
Jim:Let's build it backwards.
T.C.:Oh, you you wanna you wanna hear the very ending of this now? Okay. This is how it ends. You pick. I'll let you pick.
T.C.:The Mars or the moon, where do you wanna end?
Jim:I don't wanna end it either.
T.C.:Well, I'll tell you what.
Jim:You know where I wanna end?
T.C.:Where do you wanna end?
Jim:1998. You gonna you gonna time travel with these guys.
T.C.:Get at it.
Jim:I'm gonna time travel with them. You're gonna endgame it? Yeah. No. Why not?
Jim:No. No. Yeah. I'd to you. Back in time, and somehow they set them on the path of stealing DVD players.
T.C.:Alright. I'm giving you the I'm giving you Mars. We're we'll come back to your time travel nonsense. No. Actually, Mars is great.
T.C.:They're on Mars. Here's the thing. And we have all the characters
Jim:Uh-huh.
T.C.:And they're gonna do a drag race because whoever wins the race will be the fastest racer on the planet. And then and they, you know, like, you have some, you know, you know what this means. Whoever wins this race is the fastest racer on the planet. And then they have they're like, you know, ready, set, and then as soon as the flag goes down and they all take off, that's when you roll the credits. That's that is the final moment in the Fast and the Furious franchise is them drag racing on Mars in a freeze frame.
T.C.:There you That's I'm calling it now the Mars of the moon. That's how it ends. With that dialogue, I'm putting it right here for all the world to hear. I have predicted it. I mean, you're not wrong, but like when
Jim:you said Mars, I actually want it to be about that because then you can have races through the through the the dry canal because because Mars has canals.
T.C.:Of course.
Jim:Yeah. And I think that would be awesome because those are essentially like the roads Mhmm.
T.C.:Already on Mars.
Jim:Now, this is part of this. Yeah. We can do that. Oh, I hate myself.
T.C.:Do you? Do you? Yeah. How do we get them into space? That's the only place left to go except time travel.
T.C.:You wanna sell me on time travel? I Okay. The rock literally caught a torpedo.
Jim:I don't even know how to get him to space yet. I don't how I'm gonna get him back in time.
T.C.:Oh, they can get into space. They can get they're gonna strap Tej, you know, Luke Chris' character, he's gonna build their cars strapped to the side of, like, the space shuttle in in a way to, like, trick their way into outer space to chase down some extraordinary bad guy. Dude, you know who should be the last bad guy?
Jim:Who?
T.C.:Keanu Reeves. Oh. Keanu Reeves should be the final villain.
Jim:That's pretty good. I was gonna again, leading into the whole time travel thing, I was gonna have I was gonna bring back all the villains in some way.
T.C.:It the our studio, Needy Me Needy Speedy said that we can bring back every cast member is available.
Jim:The best way to do it is time travel. When this thing hits 88 miles per hour,
T.C.:you're You're see some serious shit. I'm I'm not sold on time travel. That's just
Jim:I'm I'm just trying to work work out space. I'm trying to work out the plot. What would happen to get them into space? I I like the idea of what you're saying with Tej working some way to to rig them up to to the space shuttle. Mhmm.
Jim:But at this point, in in in the stories, they're they work with the government. Right. This this isn't this isn't something where or where they necessarily have to be renegade criminals. Mhmm. I realized the last couple movies have kind of tried reclaiming that by having them be not the man.
Jim:Yeah. But what I'm thinking is some sort of bad guy like like, we have. There there is a mission to Mars. Right? And and it's actually this is all backstory.
Jim:There there is a mission to Mars and it's not just a single rocket ship going there. Like, there's already a colony there. Mhmm. And a bad guy has has is is doing something to basically take it hostage. Mhmm.
Jim:And I don't know if it'd be it like, if we're gonna go classic Die Hard and they're demanding a ransom for it, or if they're they're actually, no. They're they're probably planning on taking it over for themselves to make their own new nation.
T.C.:Their own their own sovereign space nation.
Jim:Yeah.
T.C.:I'm gonna I'm gonna piggyback off this. Could okay.
Jim:And the reason that Tej has to hide the cars is because the bad guys have their fingers in in everything. Mhmm. So they can see, oh, this is on that ship because we got real good space binoculars. So they have to they have to disguise it in the the different parts. So that way, then it travels and you get like no.
Jim:You could like I want I'm right now wanting to go full on sci fi with these guys. But I
T.C.:There's a fine line to walk here.
Jim:Well, that's the thing. They actually have already gone full on sci fi. They just count they they they they skin it in such a way that it doesn't like, you don't notice that.
T.C.:Right.
Jim:It it is But like, imagine, it would probably feel it would feel like a corny, really corny version of the beginning of Aliens, where you actually have cryogenic sleep and all of our characters wake up and Do you know how many corny awesome dumb jokes you would have there?
T.C.:If we're gonna go full on if we're if we we would have to jump ahead at least.
Jim:We probably can. That's probably about it.
T.C.:I think it's too far. So let let okay. Let's let's
Jim:let's try. Fine. I'm not gonna get my racing through the canals on Mars.
T.C.:Maybe. Maybe. Can we have an incident on the International Space Station that would require them so we're close. That there's some sort of incident in the International Space Station as the opener, and the the villain is escaping to the moon. Let's not let's let's get closer than Mars.
T.C.:I I do like the idea that we maybe get to Mars, but I don't know how to how do we traverse that much time and distance to Well Light speed is a thing. Does Tej crack light speed? Are we we're giving him a lot of credit, but he's the tech guy. Right?
Jim:Yeah. Roman. No. It can't be light speed. Literally, you they're gonna you'd have to they'd have to sit in a tin can for, I think it's like six months.
T.C.:Come on. It'd be sleeker than that.
Jim:Well, it'd have to be. That's why I said cryogenic sleep.
T.C.:You can't cryogenic Why not? Listen.
Jim:We're already cryogenically freezing people. We just haven't figured out how to cryogenically thaw them yet.
T.C.:We've we we we're already cryogenically freezing people. We just haven't cryogenically frozen Dom Toretto and the gang. Yes. That's what you meant to say.
Jim:That yeah.
T.C.:If we're going to do this oh my gosh. Okay. We're just throwing spaghetti at the wall right now. We need a family connection. Can Brian's son now be old enough to like, are we jumping ahead?
T.C.:No. He'd have to be 18 at
Jim:Well, and that and then all of our Characters have be elderly. Elderly.
T.C.:Why did I say elderly? They wouldn't be elderly.
Jim:Well, depending on our time jump, they might be, actually.
T.C.:We we can't do a time jump. We're just gonna pick up in 2025
Jim:or whatever.
T.C.:Bad guy does something in International Space Station and is is in hiding in the moon's orbit. So we get some sort of moon base scenario here. So you can have your your moon races, drag racing
Jim:are lame. You heard it You don't You heard it here first. Moon races
T.C.:are lame. That on a t shirt.
Jim:Not not races to the moon. No. No. Right? That is nineteen sixties, US, Russia.
Jim:Yeah. Super USSR. Super cool. Mhmm. Awesome.
Jim:Very tense. Races on the moon, Big downer.
T.C.:Ugh. What if there's tunnels on the moon we don't know about and now you have moon tunnel races? This is too much data
Jim:we I need to I don't I was trying to do a I was trying to do a bit. The bit didn't work. My bit was silence. Turns out, turn doesn't doesn't really work.
T.C.:Any any bit that leaves the the listener going, did this did it stop? Yeah. Not a good bit. No. Love you, man.
Jim:But I mean, okay. I don't have anything better, so I guess tunnels on the moon.
T.C.:You'll you'll acquiesce. Yes. Tunnels on the moon. Here's a here here's here's a thought now. We're just ridiculously saying moon races and a bad guy does a thing.
T.C.:But at the same
Jim:time isn't that what the movie is gonna do?
T.C.:Yes. That's what I'm saying.
Jim:Like, do
T.C.:you need it? Like, describe any of the Fast and the Furious movies.
Jim:Yeah. Like Like, there there's one where they take his baby and they put him on a plane that no one can find so that he'll do their stuff. Say it
T.C.:like a kid. And And then and then
Jim:And then well, no. But but no. No. But for serious. And then all the other guys are like, but why are you doing this?
Jim:He's like, I can't tell you. It's it's a bad secret.
T.C.:It's bad.
Jim:And then they they're like, that doesn't sound like dumb. And so then they're like, we'll figure it out. And they they figure it out. And they're like, oh
T.C.:It's lot familiar.
Jim:The hidden plane is there. And then they And then they go there. They stack Or they send they just send the transporter there. Mhmm. And the transporter transports the baby off of the plane.
Jim:Like a like a transporter does. Yeah. And the bad guy doesn't know what happened. And so they're all like, you still gotta do what I say and you gotta go punch your family. And he's like, no.
Jim:My baby's safe. You can't make me punch my family anymore.
T.C.:I am done punching
Jim:my family. And then and then they're like, well, it doesn't matter because I got the super submarine. Oh. And they're like, oh, we gotta chase that super submarine.
T.C.:Everyone in a car. Yeah.
Jim:And they're like, oh, we got well, let's shoot them with the submarine. They shoot torpedoes and like, oh, rock. Catch it. The rock, kick that torpedo away.
T.C.:He's drive up next to
Jim:I got it. I got this.
T.C.:And he catches the torpedo, and he and then he throws it at the submarine.
Jim:Yes. And they're like, oh, that's bad for us. We didn't expect that. Because who would? And then they're all like, they get away.
Jim:But but, of course, Dom, he didn't oh, he didn't get away. And and so then it's just his one car versus the sub. And and then he loses the car and he's like, oh, no. And they're like, ah, we're gonna get you down with a bunch of fire torpedoes. And then all of his friends are like, but no.
Jim:We drove here just in time.
T.C.:And we're driving in a circle.
Jim:This is a spoiler by by the way. This is this truly is a spoiler for a movie that exists. And they, yeah, they they they make a they make a a a semicircle And around and, like, so so literally, Dom is laying on the ice being like, I'm just just a person without a car around me.
T.C.:I don't have a
Jim:and then everyone else is like, don't worry. We circled our cars around you, and the fire hits the cars It does. And protects him and them. And the sub is like, oh, we lost. That was our last thing we could do and we lost.
Jim:And they're like, our cars are fine. And then, like, they win and they drive away on the frozen ocean. Am am I wrong? Did I what did I miss? What did I miss?
Jim:That's the movie. I mean, I missed some of the the build up, some of the earlier crazy reasons.
T.C.:Details, Jim. It's all about the details.
Jim:That's the that's the, you know.
T.C.:Oh my god. I'm dying here. Let's take a break. Let's take a break and come back and figure out how we're gonna make fast ten year feet seat belts.
Jim:Okay. Fast oh god.
T.C.:Hi there. I'm David. And I'm Kate.
Jim:And we're the hosts of another Zelda podcast.
T.C.:There are so many good podcasts out there, and some of them in particular concern the Legend of Zelda.
Jim:That's right, Kate. And we are another one of them. We that is actually the name of our show, another Zelda podcast.
T.C.:And in our show in particular, we talk about some of our favorite dungeons, characters, boss battles. We have top 10 lists.
Jim:Yeah. We do deep dives on game design and production aspects of the different Zelda games.
T.C.:And we talk about our own experiences. We do some review episodes, talk about our challenges, our struggles, and our victories.
Jim:That's right. You know, really just almost anything that has to do with Zelda, we like to talk about it. A new episode comes out every other Friday, and you can subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, and YouTube.
T.C.:And you can also check out our episodes on our website, anotherzeldapodcast.com.
Jim:That's right. Alright. We will see
T.C.:you there. Okay. Bye. This is not meant to sound sarcastic. That was a wonderful recap of a real movie.
T.C.:So so us
Jim:saying That that made a billion dollars. It did.
T.C.:It's the it's the it made it made it's all the money. So how do we end this franchise that started with stealing with DVD players and and as as of recording, had The Rock throw a torpedo at a sub and a ring of cars protect a man from fire. And it, like, a nuke nuke nuke nuke nuke threats and Yep. They've done some crazy shit in this franchise, and it's all as fun as you just described. Yeah.
T.C.:I I think that that's that's the plot I'm pitching. Something happens on the International Space Station. So Evil Moon base races on the moon. Like, Kenner Reeves is the supervillain that's gonna, like, shoot a laser at Earth or something.
Jim:I like that idea. Do we have any idea where nine is going?
T.C.:Well, from what we've seen from the trailers and and our our apologies if this airs after nine has come out. So we're we're recording this. We don't we don't often date our episodes, but we're doing
Jim:it now.
T.C.:John Cena Yeah. Spent while Dom
Jim:was That's right. Oh, I forgot. Yeah. I saw that trailer. I'm not happy about that.
Jim:Like, even though there's a Fast and Furious franchise, like
T.C.:Hans Beck. Secret Brothers? Yep. I don't
Jim:like I no.
T.C.:Yes. No. That's lame.
Jim:That's Yeah.
T.C.:Dom Toretto.
Jim:Brothers. I'm super happy Hans Beck.
T.C.:Yes. Yes. Eating. I mean
Jim:Yeah.
T.C.:Yeah. So so now now Jason Statham only killed a house hospital full of people and not Han.
Jim:No one we know.
T.C.:Unless they recounted even more and it was John Cena who somehow killed Han.
Jim:Oh, ow. I hurt my eyes. They rolled too hard.
T.C.:Oh, man. They're on the ground. Okay. So we we have our our general plot here, but how do we culminate a franchise that has escalated to this point with actual superpowered superhumans? Mhmm.
T.C.:What is the heist? What is the the reason they have to race to space? The space race begins 2025. The last space race, whatever the tagline for this movie is gonna be for fast ten year seat belts.
Jim:Well, what I'd I would I think I would like to play off of sort of the plots the the villainous plots that have been building
T.C.:Mhmm.
Jim:And do sort of a big Voltron of them, like like they were all parts of a larger thing.
T.C.:I don't like that.
Jim:No. No. Not not larger parts of like, a dude had a super plan and he's been orchestrating. I don't mean that. What I just mean is, because each of the movies had, like, a different bit of super tech
T.C.:Right.
Jim:And I I just mean somebody who's taken advantage Oh, okay. Of all of that.
T.C.:So Keanu Reeves has has He has the
Jim:he has the Idris Elba cyberware.
T.C.:Mhmm. He has the The NOS system from the first movie.
Jim:Yeah. Yeah.
T.C.:Yeah. Yeah. He's got the best DVD play.
Jim:Going going all the way back to that.
T.C.:Yeah. He's got he's got the
Jim:Like, what what did what did Charlize Theron have?
T.C.:She had the this invisible plane and those awesome dreadlocks.
Jim:I thought there was another bit of tech that she had. I don't know. Was it just hacking? Yeah. She had hacking?
T.C.:Yeah. She had hacking. Okay.
Jim:So so he's got hacking and invisible planes Mhmm. And cyberware and a cool DVD player. And, yes, Nas from the the second movie. And he can go sideways
T.C.:Uh-huh. From the third one. He can he can drift. Like He can drift
Jim:anything, though.
T.C.:He can drift in space.
Jim:Yeah. He well
T.C.:In space can't. No one can hear you drift in space.
Jim:No one can. No one
T.C.:can you can't hear it.
Jim:It's called space drifting.
T.C.:Space drifting?
Jim:Yeah. It I mean, it it it generally, you you die when you do it. But yes.
T.C.:What what is the what is the it's we
Jim:had
T.C.:a nuke in '8. Right? Mhmm. We had this this threat of nanotech in that wait. It's we have to threaten the planet.
Jim:Yeah. And I I just thought of a plot. Well, I didn't think of it. I thought of a thing that I saw.
T.C.:Oh, good. You you remembered a thing. Someone else thought of a thing and you remembered it.
Jim:Yes.
T.C.:Okay. What is it?
Jim:There's a comic book Oh. That just kick started
T.C.:Okay.
Jim:Called I I I wanna pitch his book. Right? Because I don't just wanna steal an idea. Mhmm. It's called, like, something like The Taking of Object four thirty one.
Jim:Okay. Or four thirty nine. Something like that. And it's an asteroid is headed toward Earth, and astronauts are sent up to deal with it. And this one astronaut gets there, and he, like I don't know if he kills all the I don't think he kills all the other astronauts.
Jim:I think he he basically captures them
T.C.:Mhmm.
Jim:And then basically says to to Houston, to Earth, like, give me give me ransom money. Or this Or or this asteroid will hit Earth.
T.C.:Okay. It's yeah. Oh, so you're you're essentially trying to lift that plot element?
Jim:That's the first thing that comes to mind. Yeah.
T.C.:Okay. It's the it's Wipeout, the taking of object nine three two. Now now kick starting, created by Jeff McCombsie.
Jim:Go check
T.C.:it out. Recommended by
Jim:Jeff. For the Fubar series, which is a series of zombie apocalypse stories that are really good
T.C.:as well. It it looks like it is a successful Kickstarter, so good for him. So okay. Let's let's I I hate to rip off this guy, but if there's the International Space Station or some equivalent is a creating a safety net around Earth and a villain goes up there to to take it over. So Kanto Reeves and his men go
Jim:up there. Right. Is wasn't this the plot to the that that weather mover weather movie with Oh, GeoStorm. Yeah.
T.C.:Yes. Get Jerry Butler. What's he doing? Nothing? He's available?
T.C.:Cool. Get him in here. Actually, that's that's worth mentioning. Since this is the tenth movie Mhmm. This is an opportunity to bring in every famous race movie star.
Jim:So, is Fast and the Furious just the successful version? Well, not that it wasn't successful. They had three of them, but just a a ten ten movie version of The Expendables?
T.C.:Yes. Okay. Yeah. I what what the the Expendables wishes, it had that it it had the Fast and the Furious numbers and success.
Jim:Yeah. They just didn't say family. No. La familia. Yeah.
Jim:It's all about family.
T.C.:What what was that?
Jim:It's all about family.
T.C.:One more time. I am Groot. So so can we
Jim:get crap. What was the kid's name from Iron Giant? I ruined my own joke.
T.C.:It's Hogarth Hughes.
Jim:Yeah. Hey, like super mad. Yeah. There there you go. You slack.
Jim:You say the joke for me.
T.C.:Okay. Thank you. Can Burt Reynolds make a cameo in this? Is he still alive? No.
T.C.:Is Burt Reynolds dead? Yeah. What? When did that happen?
Jim:Last year, I think.
T.C.:Oh, man. Year before? Remember that that play girl picture of him? No. Yeah.
T.C.:You do. No. Yeah. You do. Okay.
T.C.:So no Burt Reynolds. Way to break my heart on this.
Jim:Well, I just remember him holding Demi Moore's ankles in Striptease.
T.C.:His most classic moment in all the cinema that he
Jim:had. It is. That's that's the one.
T.C.:Burt Reynolds is dead? Yeah. Burt Reynolds
Jim:I'm gonna feel like a fool Dead. If he's not.
T.C.:Is he dead? This drum roll, please. Yeah. He died in 2018. Smokey went out.
T.C.:Alright. Wait. Was he the bandit or Smokey? He was bandit. Right?
Jim:Yeah. Was he was the bandit.
T.C.:Okay. Fine. So we don't get a Burt Reynolds came in.
Jim:So was he Smokey? Because he was the smokescreen. Or was he the no. Smokey was Smokey's the
T.C.:I've broken the episode by mentioning Burt Reynolds. Fine. We don't get Burzelic.
Jim:Used to know this.
T.C.:You know who we could get? Patrick Swayze. He's still around and kicking. Right?
Jim:What are you doing? What are you doing?
T.C.:What a terrible human being. Okay. So never mind.
Jim:We won't Steve McQueen.
T.C.:There we go. There's the third and final. My god. Okay. Never mind.
T.C.:Keanu Reeves is available unless I've cursed him by mentioning all these other actors. He's our supervillain. He gets up on the space station. He is literally threatening the planet. Mhmm.
T.C.:And as always, who better to go up and take care of a bad guy than a group of the best bad guys working? So Kurt Russell calls up. Dom is like, got another mission for you.
Jim:But isn't he out in the the other He's he's the junior agent
T.C.:is is around him? No. They were trying to to replace Paul Walker. To have That's how they're doing that. It's Scott Eastwood, I think, was the Okay.
T.C.:The actor. They brought him in in seven as mister Nobody's, like, hand off man. Yeah. But no. I I mean, he's he's not Paul Walker, and he's he's just another
Jim:No. I I thought they I thought Oh, no. He died
T.C.:in the seventh one.
Jim:Did he die?
T.C.:Spoiler. Sorry.
Jim:Well, we're spoiling all kinds of things here.
T.C.:Yeah. I forgot. Carussel didn't even make man, I suck. I I just mentioned four dead people with the assumption that they were alive and kicking. No.
T.C.:Wait. Everybody's available. Fine. We pull a we pull an m and bring them back postmortem to give a message to Dom. If you ever get this message, Dom, I need you to protect Earth.
T.C.:The space station's in trouble. Good. With Fitz. Is that what you're oh, god.
Jim:I'm just no. I'm mad that that you think this is okay, but time travel is too much.
T.C.:What am I gonna do with time travel? Can Woah. No, Siri. Don't listen to me. Shut up.
T.C.:Get out of here. Okay. You know what? Fine. Let's play with time travel.
T.C.:Let's go down that ramp.
Jim:Well, because I mean, if we're gonna go that far and we're gonna deep fake a bunch of we can now we can put Burt Reynolds in there. We can put Steve Which McQueen in
T.C.:was my intention.
Jim:The whole time. Whole time.
T.C.:They derail does does does Roman excitedly get to drive a DeLorean if
Jim:we're gonna
T.C.:because he's always the one who picks
Jim:it Are we just gonna do are we gonna do a Patton Oswald and we're just gonna mash together Everything. Everything, except where he took Star Wars and Marvel. We're gonna take just every movie that ever had a car. Put it
T.C.:Ronan. So we get
Jim:Kirby the love bug. Yes.
T.C.:They're all the time Austin Powers. That's gold memory. Wraith.
Jim:Wraith. Know that's Duel? Oh, yes.
T.C.:We're just naming car movies.
Jim:We're just naming car movies at this point.
T.C.:Oh my god. So Emilio Estevez, he'll probably be available. Right? Yeah. No.
T.C.:No to all of this. Oh, dang it. I know that's bad comedy, but
Jim:Dang it.
T.C.:What would we even do with a time travel plot anyway that wouldn't just be ripping off Endgame, revisiting all the other movies?
Jim:Well, it it depends it depends on what our plot is. Mhmm. I like I like time travel loop movies. Mhmm. So I like the idea of them going back and somehow setting.
Jim:I would actually probably have them do something with Dom's dad Mhmm. That sets Dom's dad on the path of his chop shop that ultimately makes his sons criminals Mhmm. And and basically kicks off what will be the franchise. I like loops like that.
T.C.:Don't say kickoff. Say put in gear.
Jim:Yeah. Shifting in in
T.C.:into gear. That guy. I well.
Jim:But once we brought up the the notion of, like, even bringing in other celebrities from movies past, doing a plot where they're going further and further back in time and encountering these other famous racist dudes. I mean, okay. It feels a little cheesy. Mhmm. But but we've seen these movies.
Jim:Right? Yeah. It's
T.C.:they're full of cheese.
Jim:So I I don't think it's impossible to make that work. But we don't have to do that. We can just go we can we can just go to space.
T.C.:We can just go to thank you, Jim. That we can just
Jim:go to The the only the only problem there is I don't know how we race cars in space. Because it all it has to we can't put them, like, in their own little, like, space pods and other space pod racers.
T.C.:Oh, well No.
Jim:I I said pod racers. I didn't mean to No. Dang it.
T.C.:If if there is a very elaborately built space station on the moon that they're racing through the station and then and then having that that total recall moment where they break through into the the zero atmosphere moments. Like, if you break through the glass, you only have sixty seconds before the oxygen in your car runs out or something like that and have to drive back into the space station. So then you're getting a a lot of
Jim:So you're just doing a moon version of
T.C.:Blues Brothers.
Jim:Was it was it four where they had to drive through the tunnels from
T.C.:Mexico to The US? Yes. Yes. To get from the Mexico to More or less, but just having glass, like, glass enclosures, like, all around the moon and sort of like the the mall chase of of of Sure. What it was in the preview for Bad Boys for Life, but it wasn't in the actual movie where they
Jim:Oh, was it? Yeah. Oh.
T.C.:Where they raced through the mall. So, yeah, have having we because now we have gravity and we have we have the risk of crashing through into zero zero g. Sure. Or lower gravity and zero
Jim:x g. The gravity doesn't change just because you're inside.
T.C.:They are using the gravity machine, Jim.
Jim:There's a gravity machine? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. There's an
T.C.:invisible plane. Yep. There's nanotech that makes the black Superman. We can have a gravity machine.
Jim:But Mars is too far.
T.C.:Yeah. Mars is too far. How do we get to Mars? God. If we get an eleventh movie, we're go we'll we'll go to Mars.
T.C.:If we get an eleventh movie, we'll time travel. We're not gonna conceptualize two in this one. Although, should we put it past them to split the final movie into two parts?
Jim:That That's
T.C.:up to us. That's no. I mean, like, legitimately in the in the real world Oh. They'll have, like, the finale be but I hate when they do that because you're telling the audience it's gonna be a cliffhanger. Right?
Jim:Well, I mean, how many movies have done that?
T.C.:Harry Potter, Twilights, Hunger Games, Infinity War and Endgame. Because initially, Endgame was gonna be Infinity War part two. Sure. What Justice League was originally intended to be.
Jim:So I think I feel like with Harry Potter Twilight and Hunger Games, I I think, like, my I think a lesson was learned.
T.C.:Oh my god. I just thought of another thing that's gonna happen in
Jim:tenth of It's not that that's necessarily an error. Mhmm. But my guess is they it's it's probably not wise to do that. It's why we're not seeing more franchises do that because they they saw that they kinda
T.C.:It's a bad idea.
Jim:They hurt themselves Yeah. By doing it. I just because because by saying, this is the last one before Right? The last That's not that's not how
T.C.:Who whoever thought of splitting the last Harry Potter? Mhmm. I can imagine that boardroom meeting being like, guys, have an idea why we split in two. And that person being like the the the boss is being like, that's a really good idea. Where were you four movies ago, We coulda had we coulda had 12 movies here.
T.C.:Get out of here. You're fired.
Jim:I just He got he got fired.
T.C.:A good idea. What a great idea. It would have been better earlier. I think I know another moment that's gonna happen in 10. Okay.
T.C.:I think during after their drag race moment on the moon where you cut Mhmm. Right, and then it know, they're running the credits, and then we start cutting in
Jim:I I I have I do have a question.
T.C.:What? Was that was that
Jim:like a cool song, or was that a a transformers
T.C.:Transformers sequence? Sequence? That was a cool song. Okay. You don't even understand EDM like I do, Jim.
T.C.:Fair. Do you even dubstep?
Jim:So but now you put that idea in my head of Fast and Furious crossing over with Transformers.
T.C.:Oh god.
Jim:No. Like No. That's not what we're doing. That's not we're not gonna do that here, but I just I wanna put a pin in that is ridiculously strangely appropriate.
T.C.:Are not wrong. You are not wrong. Because they could each get their own transformer.
Jim:Right. And and Dom is like, family. It's all about family. And then Optimus Prime goes, it's all about family. And, like, right because
T.C.:It's all about dude, is that the finale of this movie? Not not not They
Jim:they traveled to Cybertron. No. No. They go to they
T.C.:go to
Jim:they go to Car Planet. You know
T.C.:what you're saying? No. Not that they meet up with the transformers, but they literally Voltron into all their cars.
Jim:Become big Become big car.
T.C.:And they become one big super mech car on the moon. How can we even just justify fighting Keanu Reeves super mech that he also has? And Don's just in the center chest piece like,
Jim:let's do this.
T.C.:And then okay. And then so what I was getting at with the during the closing credits, we start seeing epilogues for all the characters, and one of the characters is selling merchandise of their space car, like, mission. Right? Like, you have, like, Brian's kid and Don's kid playing with, like since we keep referencing Tejas, the tech guy, he has developed a toy line of the Fast and the Furious toys in universe. Very meta.
T.C.:And and the thing I realized
Jim:What would that toy line be called? That's important to this podcast.
T.C.:What it'd be oh god. What would the toy line of in the Fast and the Furious universe be called? Yeah. I mean, lazily, The Fast and the Furious
Jim:Yeah. Is what they would call See, I feel I feel like that I I think I think Taj would come up with a clever name. Quick
T.C.:angry.
Jim:Okay. Fast and Furious. He calls it Fast
T.C.:and Furious. I threw out a worse idea there. One over. Okay. So another one of the epilogues that's gonna happen.
T.C.:Mhmm. Roman is the president. Mhmm. Yep. You can see it, can't you?
T.C.:Mhmm. You can picture it, him in the Oval Oval Office. Yep. Yep. Kicking his feet up, like like, hawking items because he's a criminal at heart.
T.C.:Right?
Jim:Yeah. Yep. Yep. That's what's happening.
T.C.:Tej is gonna no. Tej will be making a toy line. Roman is president. Brian and Dom have opened up a a mechanic shop in Los Angeles. Okay.
Jim:Okay. I was gonna say whatever happens at the end, Dom like, all that happens with Dom is that he's just, like, on a beach with his family.
T.C.:No. He Like,
Jim:he like, no act like, that's his epilogue every time.
T.C.:It opens it ends with him having the Toretto O'Connell mechanic shop, like, auto body shop in LA adjacent to their home back to back to their roots. The one of the kids is like, dad, what's this? Oh, that's a DVD player.
Jim:You mean
T.C.:you have to use your hands? I hate it. But it's
Jim:It's going in there. I I
T.C.:hate it. Who else do we have? So, oh, Michelle Rodriguez is there. So Leti is with with them. Yep.
T.C.:Joining at Brewster's. Mia is with Brian, like the whole the fam like, it's that it's those four. Yeah. We end with those four. Yeah.
T.C.:Because it started with those four.
Jim:Yeah.
T.C.:And they're they're happily
Jim:I don't I don't remember what everyone else was about. Like like, what would would would Jason Statham I'm sorry. Shaw? Yep. Would Shaw just be, like, pulling off a heist?
T.C.:I don't I think we'll only get a cameo
Jim:of Would he be robbing Fort Knox?
T.C.:I think we'd only get a cameo of him in The Rock.
Jim:Okay.
T.C.:And I think they've I I don't know if the rivalry between Vin Diesel and The Rock is real or if it's all part of marketing. But as I'm to understand Oh, do you think
Jim:do you think Hobbs and Shaw was actually meant to splinter them away from the main franchise to to not include or are they going to be in the in nine?
T.C.:I don't I don't see any indication that they're gonna be in nine. And so if if at all, they'll appear in ten momentarily.
Jim:Okay.
T.C.:Does Han and and get Gal Gadot to come back and they they live happily ever after?
Jim:Yep. On an invisible plane.
T.C.:I don't know. She's in a bikini. He's eating nachos.
Jim:Plane. Right? She's Wonder Woman, invisible
T.C.:plane. Right. Right. I follow.
Jim:That's good.
T.C.:No. It's good.
Jim:Good. That's good.
T.C.:What other characters are left? Someone out there is like, you're forgetting my favorite character who I can't remember. What
Jim:what's her I don't remember. I remember her character's name in either of the things she was in.
T.C.:The nerdy computer techie girl? Yeah. The one that, like
Jim:I she'd be with Tej. Right?
T.C.:Well, because Roman and Tej are constantly trying to win her over, and she's like, I'm not a prize to be one, dumb dumbs.
Jim:Oh, yeah.
T.C.:But maybe they have a mutual her and Tej, like, build the company together. The toy company. And I think that Yeah. Sure. That's it.
T.C.:There there we go. We we have we've we've given them all their epilogues.
Jim:Getting someone, though. It doesn't it doesn't matter.
T.C.:So they they defeat Keanu Reeves on the moon in giant in a giant mech suit fight. What have you done? I'm winning Fast and the Furious is what I'm doing. That that's it. That's all we needed.
T.C.:We've we've done it, Jasper.
Jim:Me needy speedy.
T.C.:Me needy speedy pictures.
Jim:Me needy speedy.
T.C.:Yeah. Me needy speedy. I'll get it. Yeah.
Jim:I'll get there.
T.C.:You'll get there. So we've done it. We've we've successfully crafted. What more do you need from A Fast and the Furious than everything to become Voltron on the moon? Okay.
T.C.:I'll give you how about this as one of the epilogues?
Jim:Uh-huh.
T.C.:Someone is working on a time machine. Just just the hint that time travel would be next.
Jim:I'm I'm okay with that.
T.C.:Like like okay. So we get the we end with the moon drag race that we don't get to see the winner. Then during the credits, you get little sixty second epilogues of everybody. Then we finish the like, cut to black, let the credits roll with some pop song. And then we have a post credit stinger that is a garage with, like, you know, revving the engine and some sort of, like, I've done it.
T.C.:Guys, I think I've created the fastest car yet in some sort of indication of time travel, and then that's the end. Yeah. You're nodding. You're okay with it. So then
Jim:I'm I'm okay with yeah. The that epilogue. I'm for for lack like, I I don't I don't the the the the Voltron I don't think the Voltron Darn it.
T.C.:That's alright. I wouldn't let out of time travel, so no Voltron fight.
Jim:Well, because it needs to be a race.
T.C.:Well, it it's a race. You're right.
Jim:Because they're running race of Garfisk.
T.C.:Does it it still comes down to Keanu Reeves versus Dominic Toretto just kicking the crap out of each other? I think so. Or or we go
Jim:Well, full like, what if there's a, like, what if we okay. What if we what if we re reframe things? First thing, to race to space.
T.C.:Mhmm.
Jim:Right? But then Space race. Whatever our McGuffin is heads back toward Earth. And so now they need to like, so then we get a reentry Mhmm. Moment.
Jim:We get a whole reentry race, right, where where they're they're they're they're falling. I realize we've already done parachutes and stuff, but this is, like, that times a bunch. Even because burning up and stuff. Right? So then I'm imagining the ultimate climax.
Jim:It's it's gone so big. It's gone to space. All sorts of crazy things that happened. What I actually imagine the final thing being is just a just like like a stripped down car race. Mhmm.
Jim:Again, Dom versus John Wick.
T.C.:Yeah. Yeah.
Jim:Because because it it is. Right? And and and I don't know if they'd be racing side by side to get to a thing or if there's a thing in the middle that they're both wanting to get to first. Okay. Maybe No.
Jim:Have oh, this is Go ahead. What if what if we play a little into Rocket League?
T.C.:They're kicking a ball around? It doesn't have to be
Jim:a ball, but, like, literally, they're they're using the cars to, like, keep something away from the other one.
T.C.:So sort of a reverse of six where they're dragging the safe. Yeah. Okay. Could okay. How about this?
T.C.:We we, space station takeover, moon base, race on the moon as we lead into, like, the climax. We we we have the race on the moon with all the Keanu and the minions, Dom chasing down Keanu. It it they break moon atmosphere. So we have a lull, and they then they have the reentry moment side by side onto the planet. They land and then keep racing.
Jim:How close do you think the moon is
T.C.:to Earth? 137 wait. Wait. I know this. It's it's it's 137.
T.C.:I know that. The shining. The shining. You broke me. Look.
T.C.:I know I know how far away the moon is to Earth, but we're we're dealing with super fast cars right here.
Jim:And they
T.C.:and they
Jim:So they jump off the moon? They they They're just racing so fast on the moon.
T.C.:They they
Jim:slingshot off the moon. They they slingshot off.
T.C.:And they rock it back to Earth. And then and so it's like like like it's a lull. It's like, Dom, when you hit the atmosphere, you'll never gonna make it.
Jim:I gotta try. I gotta get there before I am. See where you're going. I can't allow that. Come on.
Jim:I can't the race on the moon Yes. That already is going to be ridiculous and not moon like already. That's the midway
T.C.:that's the big middle section action
Jim:piece. And and that is a race they're they're trying to stop Keanu Reeves from getting to his his escape pod thing Mhmm. But they fail.
T.C.:Okay.
Jim:So he shoots off. Mhmm. And they're like and they're like, oh, crap. So he's got the thing and he's going back to Earth and he's gonna get them a guffin and oh, no. That's when they have to cobble together.
Jim:Taj needs to take the tech that's there on the moon and be like, alright. We only have room for one car. Who's gonna go? My name's Dom. I'm gonna go.
Jim:It's not familiar. So they Give me a corona. They put him in his car, and they launch him after with their with their
T.C.:Better tech. It's it's it's it's cobbled together tech, but it's better. So he catches he's catching up
Jim:to the they iron man, basically Yeah. Yeah. A car launcher. And I realized saying that doesn't sound much better than they just jump out of the grave any
T.C.:different than car circle protecting Dom. Yes. So he has to catch up to Keanu for our final our final
Jim:And and so then yeah. And then and then we get a like, even though they're not actually driving the cars, we get a classic, like, oh, whose nose is in front of whose as they reenter.
T.C.:Just burn it up. And they gotta land and keep racing?
Jim:Well, yeah. Well, I I imagine you'd make a moment of that too. It would they wouldn't just be hit the ground running. Mhmm. They'd, like, hit the ground and it'd be equivalent of, like, who comes to first?
Jim:And then like, oh, the other one's like, oh, no. No. I gotta catch up. And then so then they do that and they use their super space NOS to Super space NOS. Catch up to the other one and their their shit I keep imagining this in the Salt Flats, honestly.
Jim:Okay. But it doesn't it doesn't have to be there. We can put it on a road. I don't care.
T.C.:Get them in the city. Get them into Los Angeles. Take it back to the roots. No. No.
T.C.:No. You know what? Taking it out to the Salt Flats is where the space race took place. Not space race. Brace Wars took place in the original one.
T.C.:It was out in the desert. Yeah. So we're we're back where we started.
Jim:Yeah. There you go.
T.C.:You can see a remnants of one of the destroyed cars.
Jim:There you go. And an
T.C.:old downed faded sign that says race war. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Callback.
T.C.:That's that'll be an Easter egg
Jim:zoo mystery. Callback all way back to all the way back to the first one. What if the true MacGuffin is something that that Keanu Reeves discovers was hidden In the DVD players. In a DVD player Oh my god. That had been abandoned at the race wars out in the desert
T.C.:But what is it?
Jim:In the first movie. What how do we Just to connect it.
T.C.:I know. But how does that how does that culminate in the entire planet is at risk here? Because we can't get any bigger now. Like, we have to escalate the threat. Well, it would be He's threatening the planet.
Jim:It would be what whatchamacallit? A skeleton key to launch all nukes Okay. On on planet.
T.C.:God planet. Gotcha. It's a it's Right.
Jim:Some someone someone put them all on the same network and then made a single plunger. The
T.C.:Yo. I'm telling you, this has linked every nuke on the planet into one device. Oh. And if he gets a hold of that device, he'll blow them all up and he'll live on the moon. I mean King James.
Jim:I don't know how it would retroactively work to be that, but and it doesn't have to be in a DVD player. They they could be something else. But the justification for how and why all of the nukes in all the different nations were linked up altogether would be through the lady we can't remember her computer network. The computer lady that That Charlize Theron tried stealing.
T.C.:That's right. We're missing one element, the family connection. There's always
Jim:They just say it through the whole thing.
T.C.:There's always so the first one was all about the family. The second one was not. Okay. Third one, okay, also wasn't. Fourth was
Jim:because Fourth is where they realized, oh, this franchise is about family.
T.C.:Yeah. Letty was killed, so it was all about avenging her for Baraga, who's a bad guy. Yeah. 5 which what was 5? Was 5 Was
Jim:five the the heist in South America with the safe?
T.C.:I thought that was six. What was five's plot? Oh my god. Does it matter? Seven was the Jason Statham.
T.C.:Oh, no. Okay.
Jim:Five was Jason stay
T.C.:Five. No. No. Five was Letty was back. It was the it was Oh, but, yeah, it was Dracula.
T.C.:Dracula and Told. It was Luke Evans had the Oh, Shaw's brother. Yes. Was evil. And and Dom and the guys had to stop him because and only got involved because Letty was still alive.
Jim:That's right.
T.C.:Oh, can we bring Eva Mendes back? I just remembered she was in two, and she did the stinger at the end of five. Yeah. Thank you. Alright.
T.C.:Good.
Jim:Well, right, we don't have Kurt Russell anymore.
T.C.:So why not?
Jim:Because mister Nobody's gone. Yeah. So she's the government contact
T.C.:That heist.
Jim:That hooks them up to go to space. To go
T.C.:to space. There you go. Cool. Eva Mendes is back. Six okay.
T.C.:Six was the heist. That's where Dom was dealing with the oh, wait. Oh, god. These movies well, maybe we should have rewatched them all. So is there some way to create some sort of family threat or family connection?
T.C.:Like, is
Jim:this Short answer, yes.
T.C.:Okay. So what what could that be? I don't wanna, like, kidnap Mia or or have the kids be threatened again because we've already played that card.
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:We've already had the brother. I actually think you were on to something a while ago talking about Dom's dad somehow playing a factor here. Okay. Oh, okay. Okay.
T.C.:Hold hold hold. Let me try. Could the dad have been involved with something that is connected to like, we get a flashback to young Dom and young Mia as, like, our prologue into the movie where
Jim:And young John Cena?
T.C.:And young John Cena. Yes. Young John Cena. It's just John Cena's face on a kid's body. Real creepy.
T.C.:Dom's dad had some is is part of the MacGuffin that Keanu Reeves is chasing down connected to the the network of nukes that's gonna destroy the planet, space laser from the moon or something.
Jim:The the whole secret brother thing will have been done. So my first inclination would be to say secret uncle.
T.C.:I think I think we can connect it to the dad. I think we can connect to the past. Like, not have a current, but some connection all the way back to before any of this even started that that that because the the shop that they all work in was Dom and Mia's dad's shop, but we've never seen the dad. We've never like, he's he's out of the picture.
Jim:Yeah. Because he's I I I believe he's dead.
T.C.:Yeah. So I'm not saying bring him back. I don't we don't need a secret uncle, but something in our prologue that said like, you know, even going so far as having dad played by some we can get some cameo here or it's just Vin Diesel with a beard. And he's like, just remember, Dom, it's all about family. And then opening credits, and then we're present day, and we immediately launch into Keanu Reeves attacking the space station.
T.C.:And then after our prologue and cold open, then we see Dom with his son being called by Eva Mendes. We need your help. Call Brian. He's available.
Jim:I mean but all all you did was you just had a flashback to have someone say family, but the plot doesn't involve it.
T.C.:Then when The dad did like, something he something he put, like, a hid or some I don't know. You would knock down these dominoes with me. I'm trying to create
Jim:a No. I'm oh, I'm trying to catch so you wanna you wanna Howard Stark this?
T.C.:Yes. Yes.
Jim:There you Great. He so so dad dad hid some special thing, hid a McGuffin Yeah.
T.C.:That
Jim:that either that either John Wick wants Mhmm.
T.C.:Or that that Dom uses in the end to save the day.
Jim:Okay.
T.C.:Like, to to it's not you know, normally, I'll just protect my family, but now I'm protecting the whole damn world
Jim:because the world The world is my is my family. The world
T.C.:And it's and just using even if dad just like
Jim:Earth is where my family lives.
T.C.:Yeah. I I don't quite know how to tie in the family angle, but I do think some flashback to the the mechanic shop and solidifying that this has always been about protecting family, protecting the planet your family lives on. I'm making a face when I say that. And having it come down to race, race back to Earth, race on Earth, get to the thing, final throwdown between Vin Diesel and John and and Keanu Reeves. Yeah.
T.C.:And Dom Wims. Dom.
Jim:Dom Wims.
T.C.:Dom Wims.
Jim:I like that ending more.
T.C.:Than Voltron? Yes. Okay. I do too.
Jim:There you go. We did it. I mostly.
T.C.:Fast ten year seat belts.
Jim:And that's the name. Of course. And they say it constantly throughout the movie.
T.C.:You guys fasten trouble here.
Jim:What am I supposed to do? Fasten your seat belts.
T.C.:Up in that tub.
Jim:Why is everyone pronouncing fasten so so hard? We're really hitting that. Fasten.
T.C.:Fasten your seat belt.
Jim:Good lord.
T.C.:There it is. Fasten the Furious 10. Did we miss anything?
Jim:I mean, aside from pulling together the how the how and why the villain is doing what he's doing.
T.C.:For bad guy reasons?
Jim:I mean Must right? He twirls his mustache
T.C.:and says,
Jim:I'm going to stop the earth. And then they
T.C.:Has the motivation been, like, how much that very complex for these villains of the past? Like No. Charlize was just doing it because she was bad. Luke Evans' Shaw character was just a bad guy. Robert, like, was a thief.
Jim:But they they had connections and networks that that were like and this is we're we're super funded.
T.C.:Yeah. We could we could okay. Fine. Let's let's try this. Former military, former, like, jaded expatriate getting seeking revenge, like
Jim:What if what if he's a billionaire? What if he's a super billionaire?
T.C.:Who's just an evil villain there?
Jim:Who's become jaded? Oh. Like, literally, he's purchased everything. So the the cyber tech Mhmm. That was being used to lord over those soldiers and make them do what people wanted.
T.C.:Mhmm.
Jim:He bought that. And so he has his own strings free version.
T.C.:Mhmm.
Jim:And so he has that. He he went and purchased all these different things. Yeah. He's just like, yeah. I'm done.
Jim:I'm done, and so the rest of you are done. We're going to end this.
T.C.:This is evil Elon Musk.
Jim:Elon Musk doesn't wanna No.
T.C.:No. That's why I said evil Elon Musk. He's got everything, and he just wants more
Jim:Elon Musk. Elon Musk. There's his name. Keanu Reeves is Elon Musk. Evil off Musk.
Jim:No. I mean, if we if you really wanted to do that, Elon Musk launched his car into space.
T.C.:It's true.
Jim:Our evil Elon Musk could have done the same thing and that's actually what he used to kinda hijack moon base and and stuff.
T.C.:Like, it it seemed like a cool, like, fun, cute thing that he launched a little but it was
Jim:That's actually how he got into space. He has his own private space shuttle.
T.C.:He has his own SpaceX situation going on. Yep. So he's doing it out of pure ego. Like, he's not an he's not, like yeah. He's just he's just it's all gone.
T.C.:Was like, I'm tired of this plan. I've done everything I could possibly think of to do, so now I'm gonna I'm going to take over a moon base, and I'm angry. Mhmm. And what what is that final thing he needs? Are we going with the whole nuke network network thing?
T.C.:Thing?
Jim:That's that's all I got so far. If you got something better, I am all for it.
T.C.:Well, if he's if he's this sort of like, I gotta have it all kind of thing, maybe there's something really simple that he that he like, it's the it's the it's the arc or it's the grail or it's
Jim:the it's I was
T.C.:even was rosebud. Yeah. It's it's his it's his sled. Give me my sled. Like, I'm saying
Jim:This was taken from me when I was 10. Oh, what? Right? I'm like, that's why he's jaded because he's just had all the money and can get wherever he wants and he doesn't have a family.
T.C.:He doesn't have La Familia. Yeah. If only is he
Jim:is the anti Dom Toretto.
T.C.:Yeah. He's got everything and no family. Yeah. And Dom has a family. He's got a lot
Jim:to
T.C.:do. He's got stolen a lot of money. They are bad guys. Yeah. They're bad, but they're they mean well.
Jim:Right? Could are are there any other bits or or scenes we would wanna highlight and put into this?
T.C.:I I if we are gonna
Jim:The astronaut training. They they have to do, like, a super quick astronaut training.
T.C.:We're we're gonna Armageddon this. Only if we lamp shade it in someone. And, like,
Jim:having Well, it's this is the chance for Roman to to make all kinds of really dumb jokes about, like, the spinning fast and having to throw up.
T.C.:Oh, they
Jim:were Like, they have to go into the the the deep dive pools. Mhmm. And
T.C.:yeah. Can because we're doing this, then we might as well lampshade it and have Roman watching Armageddon, like Oh. Yeah. Crying about it and Tej coming to me you crying at Armageddon? No.
T.C.:Get out
Jim:of here. I'm studying. I'm studying. Studying. I'm Don't wanna close my eyes.
T.C.:Oh, man. Ludacris can do a version of that song for the credits. Yeah. Don't wanna close my eyes. Don't wanna I don't wanna miss a
Jim:thing. Oh,
T.C.:man. Too bad Bruce Willis is super lazy. Otherwise, I'd offer him a cameo. He's not welcome here. You hear me, Bruce?
T.C.:You're not welcome.
Jim:Yeah. He listens to our podcast.
T.C.:Yeah. Oh, I mean, ever since we we told him how easy of a job he'd have with with Die Hard six
Jim:Oh, yeah.
T.C.:He's like, I like these guys.
Jim:He's been on board?
T.C.:Yeah. I like these guys.
Jim:Not anymore though.
T.C.:Because
Jim:Right. We got we got them at the beginning of season one. We lose them at the beginning of season two.
T.C.:Take that, mister Bruce Willis. You lazy pro.
Jim:We got you? Bruno? There we go. Yeah. I think so.
Jim:We're we're what what are we missing? What what what are we missing?
T.C.:We're missing something. Having I if we are bringing Brian O'Connell back as a character and utilizing our technology to keep Yeah. We didn't really to keep him alive, having having a sweet moment of of of, Paul of Brian talking to Mia, talking to his his kid, like, having some sweet moments with the family. Those are little details that would be sprinkled in Sure. In the actual writing process.
T.C.:We've hit all the major set pieces. We've we've got our opening. We've got we've got our closing. The details that would have to be hashed
Jim:the opening?
T.C.:The taking over the space station. I mean, if you allow me the prologue of having dad say La Familia at the mechanic shop.
Jim:So I I think just in the spirit of Fast and Furious, my only problem with that being the opening, unless unless this was a part of it, there's gotta be a race. There's gotta be a race of some kind. The best, in my opinion, the best Fast and Furious Sure. Started with the race.
T.C.:The the having it open with the bad guy thing, like having the bad guys do this take over the space station and then hard cutting to then to Cool. Like middle of a race.
Jim:To a flashback of a race?
T.C.:No. No. No. Not a race. Like Oh,
Jim:I was thinking his dad would be racing.
T.C.:Oh, well oh, oh, sure. Sure. We can have the very cold like, the prologue opening be a drag race.
Jim:Yeah. That's what I would that's what I meant.
T.C.:I'm I'm I misunderstood. Having a cold open prologue drag race with dad and little Dom Toretto being like, yeah, dad.
Jim:I'm sorry. Yeah, dad.
T.C.:And then
Jim:So the so John Cena kid is a kid body with John Cena's And then Dom Toretto is a kid But he has a diesel fuel Exactly. Having that, having And Jordana Brewster is just Jordana Brewster.
T.C.:Yes. Yeah. Yeah. She's she's timeless. She's she's ageless.
T.C.:She's she's graceful. Black and white drag race called desaturated prologue young Dom drag race opening with dad. Title screen open with the space station getting taken over hard cut to Dom and Brian in a in a race out in the countryside or something like that. Like, immediately And
Jim:it gets it gets interrupted by Eva
T.C.:Yeah. Coming.
Jim:Yeah. To to be Here's the mission. Gotta send you to space.
T.C.:Should you choose to accept.
Jim:I need my family. And then they get their family and they go then go to Cape Canaveral, they're all like space time. Mhmm. And they do some training.
T.C.:Inter intercutting with Keanu's evil plan of of getting to the moon base, having him kill a bunch of people taking over the moon base.
Jim:Oh, and then, right, they're like, we gotta go. There's no time. But but you didn't finish your training. There's no time. We gotta go now.
Jim:To train. So that's when they do the thing and they go.
T.C.:Yeah. And then get to the moon base, have a confrontation scuffle, lead to a race in the moon base, which ends with Keanu escaping back to Earth.
Jim:Because he wins that race. Because he
T.C.:wins that race. Yeah. Them having to build and this is kind of a slowdown moment for our tender moments between characters.
Jim:Yeah. The characters who aren't Tony Stark
T.C.:Right.
Jim:Are like, oh, man. These are our final moments together because we're running out of oxygen. I Jim just decided to put into the script.
T.C.:This can't shut the whole base down.
Jim:Yeah. Yeah.
T.C.:There you So there's your plot. Keeping them alive on the base Mhmm. While Dom chases down Kiano. And maybe Kiano has
Jim:And then it ends it ends with Dom punching Kiano Reeves, and then the others just walk up. And he's like, oh, how'd you guys get here? Turns out there was there was just there was an escape.
T.C.:Fine. And there's oxygen as well.
Jim:Like, we're good. We're we're good. We're
T.C.:here. No. Because he has to go back like, they he he he goes back to save them on the on the moon and shows up just in time, and then everything's fine.
Jim:That's the denouement?
T.C.:Yeah. That it's fine. And then they have the drag race on the moon, hard cut to credits, closing epilogue scenes with Roman as president and Tej and and computer chick, making toys, and Dom, Brian, Mia, and Letty looking at their kids at the mechanic shop, fade to black, roll the credits for pop song, and then Stinger at the end is one of them is developing a time machine. The end. The deckology of, if that's the correct word, for the Fast and the Furious, Fast ten year seat belts.
T.C.:We've done it folks. Put it in park or toss you the keys. We're going inside. Yeah. You're welcome.
T.C.:How much of that is gonna be right? We've we've we seriously we've we've we got some things kind of close on our dark or on our on our Terminator guesses. Yeah. How much of this? I'm excited to see this with you Jim.
Jim:Think do. 10 for 10.
T.C.:You're you're gonna think we're gonna hit all 10. I'm gonna bet we get two right. I'm I'm gonna go low. Okay.
Jim:God. That's that's really rough. I think I think they'll I don't see well, I think nine they're attempting to pull back. Mhmm. I don't know if that'll work.
Jim:I think going to space is is the thing. Think they'll
T.C.:go to Space is the place for the space race.
Jim:I don't know how they will race up there.
T.C.:Inside the moon base, gravity machine. Come on, Jim. Use your imagination.
Jim:Space gravity machine.
T.C.:Yeah. And then it breaks and they all kinda float for a moment. And then and then, what, like, wow. Mid race and then it kicks back on and they all slam back down to race some more. And then it kicks off,
Jim:and they're all floating somewhere. And that that's when they're like, oh, we gotta take advantage of Fujiro g. Yep. And oh, okay. Because they see they see Keanu Reeves.
Jim:He keeps getting ahead. Yeah. And Dom's the first one to catch on. He, like, goes So that's how the two of them yeah. Yeah.
Jim:You see it. Oh, yeah. Because we see someone else hit NOS too late, and their car's already floating. And the wheels just spin,
T.C.:and they
Jim:don't go anywhere. It's like, oh, no.
T.C.:It's got time to
Jim:just try. NOS. Zoom.
T.C.:Well, how did we do, folks? I am what really wondering if at the very least you were as as mute as amused as we were sitting here just listening to you, Jim, describe Fast and Furious eight was was worth every minute of this podcast that we've just had here. But, yeah, I I I Jasper, so we we've met your demand. Please hit us up.
Jim:We hope we've We
T.C.:hope we yes. We we have we've we've risen to the occasion, and I hope we have met your demand. And if not, I'm very curious to see what Fast and Furious nine offers us and what Fast 10 will offer us as well.
Jim:And and let us know what you liked. Let us know what you Mhmm. Would would want to include.
T.C.:The listeners. Yes. Yeah. Not just Jasper. UTC.
T.C.:Not me.
Jim:Alrighty. Jasper well, I mostly I mostly wanna hear from Jasper. That that's right. It's a it's a specific call out. But, really, anyone, if you got a a a neat addition, I wanna hear it.
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Jim:Oh, yeah. That's fine. Yeah.
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Jim:No moon worms. No. Like, do moon worms? Yeah. But no.
Jim:None of them. With their They're not allowing
T.C.:You know what? Okay. You know, we set space. Race worms. You know, it's another
Jim:I mean, that would be a system that's still
T.C.:Oh, turbo. Yeah. That's right.
Jim:You know, it's another thing that we do in space.
T.C.:What? Race racing vampires.
Jim:Racing vamp I mean, oh, I have a whole story about what I thought was going to be a vampire racing movie. Oh, really? And it wasn't. It was a vampire drug movie. What?
Jim:What movie are you talking about?
T.C.:Did you make this up or
Jim:you saw it? It's a real thing, and I don't wanna say the title because I feel like then I'm just gonna be like, I don't I don't wanna make fun of other independent filmmakers.