S1 EP15 | The Goonies II
S1 #15

S1 EP15 | The Goonies II

In this episode T.C. and Jim craft a true sequel to the 1985 film, The Goonies.@StudioDemandsIt on Instagram and @StudioDemandsIt on Twitter | studiodemandsit.comThis has been a production of Sixfive Media, LLC 2019
T.C.:

Get it right or pay the price. And I don't know if you park. If you think about you. I did It's it's I hope we never park. Now get it right or pay the That's that is the

Jim:

Oh, that's what that

T.C.:

That is

Jim:

it right or pay

T.C.:

the price? That's what we gotta do today. We have to we have to the studio demands a a a reboot or a sequel series of

Jim:

Do we make a series, or do we do a movie?

T.C.:

What what we gotta do some Nickelodeon wants a new salute your shorts. Roll roll this now. It's really I'm really a salute your shorts sponge, donkey lips, Budnick Jenny Lewis. Telly. What was the hippie girl's name?

T.C.:

Oh.

Jim:

You guys remember it way better than I do. Rilo Kiley.

T.C.:

Yeah. What? I don't know. Sleet Your Shorts?

Jim:

I No. No. I remember Sleet Your Shorts. Yeah.

T.C.:

Just the names of the characters.

Jim:

Yeah. The names of the characters and and, like, you probably recall specific adventures and I do not.

T.C.:

Only one I can specifically remember is the the water balloon capture the flag episode that Donkey Lips wins. Yeah. Yeah. We're not we're not gonna do that. Hello, everyone.

T.C.:

Welcome to The Studio Demands It, an exercise in creativity where we will challenge ourselves to conceptualize, pitch, and craft a film or a TV series or a property based on the stipulations of a Hollywood overlord, a hypothetical. I've done this how many times now? Hypothetical Hollywood overlord.

Jim:

Can be real. We we'll do this for real. It's fine.

T.C.:

We talk movies all the time. In particular, we complain about the choices that are made in the films we've seen. And, of course, we think we can do better because we are noble nerds. And, we think we could do better with the demands and restrictions that were clearly placed on said property. I'm T.

T.C.:

C. De Witt, and joining me as always is my cohostess with the mostestess, the world champion stone skipper, Jim Burzelic. Jim, how are you?

Jim:

Doing doing good.

T.C.:

Yeah. It's all on the wrist. Right? Yeah. How do how do you what is your method behind becoming a world champion

Jim:

stone skipper? My method is no wrist. No wrist. Your wrist, and it's just it's a flick with the fingers. It's like you you take you take your whole arm Yeah.

Jim:

And it's it's this like it's like this crab pinch.

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

And when you flick, you you you shoot it out with your with your with your crab pinch fingers.

T.C.:

I have not watched your entire YouTube channel where you have, like, what, 45, 50 videos on how to throw a rock. It's very interesting. Why don't you have a stone? We were I was at a restaurant recently, and ESPN, the Ocho must have been playing

Jim:

Yes.

T.C.:

Because they had the stone skipping championships up, but after that was the cornhole championships. Mhmm. I who how do you become a world champion cornholer? Like,

Jim:

how is it there? You.

T.C.:

Practice. Oh, right. It's so obvious. How did I not know? I I just was amazed.

T.C.:

I'm like, this is on ESPN. They're showing me the and for those that they're

Jim:

really Like, I know the Ocho is still just sort of a joke.

T.C.:

It's from Dodgeball. Yeah.

Jim:

It really should just be a thing. It should be. I am way more interested in that ESPN. Maybe that makes me a bad person. I

T.C.:

don't know. No. You're just a nerd who likes dodgeball

Jim:

and Yeah.

T.C.:

And cornhole, and and you're you're a world champion stone

Jim:

skipper. Cornhole.

T.C.:

For the to be does everyone not know what cornhole that's a Midwestern thing.

Jim:

Right? Yeah.

T.C.:

It's it's beanbag toss.

Jim:

Yeah. It's

T.C.:

the it's bozo buckets beanbag toss. Yep. And you throw it, and it goes

Jim:

in hole. Bucket. There's there's a there's a plank.

T.C.:

It's like a rampage. Holes.

Jim:

Yeah. It's it's beanbag skee ball.

T.C.:

Beanbag skee ball. There it is. My goodness. Yeah. I was just looking up, and I'm like, this was it was on for an hour.

T.C.:

Like, it was a full full thing. Like

Jim:

The stone skipping one was actually on a recent episode of John Oliver.

T.C.:

Oh, maybe that's what I saw.

Jim:

Yeah. Oh, no. No. I did because they they they talked about how the announcers were just way too enthusiastic and just talking about Yeah.

T.C.:

But I I remember there there are people I don't remember this. I know this. There are people who think bowling should be an Olympic Sure. Thing. I don't know.

T.C.:

I mean

Jim:

I What what happens when everyone gets a perfect 300?

T.C.:

I mean, that's kinda boring. What's the chance? I mean, maybe if they had, like, loop de loops in the bowling. Like but so, like, the the reason I say that is, like, the obstacles, like, you have to, like, throw it across lanes. Like,

Jim:

you have to overhand it. Now imagine imagine doing with bowling what they've done with golf. Right? They got mini golf. What if you had bowling as equivalent kind of thing where you got crazies crazy zigzag bowling alleys.

T.C.:

Like, I I wanna see American Ninja Warrior and bowling combined. And now imagine the type of person who typically put bowls Yeah. Trying to do an American Ninja Warrior course. I'm not I'm not shaming anyone. I'm just saying

Jim:

typically what? I think the dude can do it. The dude can do it.

T.C.:

I mean so there are people who think bowling should be an Olympic event. Do you think there are people who think cornhole should be an Olympic event? Like,

Jim:

Like like, I I will bet there are people who would petition for it, but I don't think anyone is, like, without irony, like, yes. This should be an why is this not already an Olympic sport? No.

T.C.:

I think there are people without irony who are like, you are so skilled at this. I don't understand why this isn't an Olympic thing. You win a gold and the silver. It would be it would be

Jim:

amazing. No. With with the accent.

T.C.:

With the accent. Noted.

Jim:

Oh oh, noted. I thought you said not

T.C.:

No. Noted. Noted the accent.

Jim:

Yeah. Noted the yeah.

T.C.:

Just curious. You know? So as a stone skipping champion.

Jim:

Yeah. I mean, that accent is someone from Appleton.

T.C.:

That's synonymous with Cornhole.

Jim:

Appleton, Wisconsin.

T.C.:

That's where they get it. Yeah. Little

Jim:

Where did you get that accent?

T.C.:

I grew up in Appleton. Appleton, Wisconsin. You do you know where that is? It's it's a beautiful place. We have it's just up north north you know, it's up north there.

Jim:

Up north there. Yeah. Now what's happening to your accent? No one knows.

T.C.:

No one knows. We are offending all our Midwestern listeners right now. It's fine. We're Midwestern. Yeah.

T.C.:

It's it's okay.

Jim:

We do it. Yeah.

T.C.:

Yeah. So previous episode, we we kicked it off with a long rant about Logan's Run where you basically explained the movie from memory.

Jim:

Yeah. Which which which was no no errors. I I missed no details of that movie.

T.C.:

You didn't, but we've we've had requests since that now every episode, I should just name a movie that I sort of remember, and you have to explain it to me.

Jim:

Okay. Like like, what I'll do it by god.

T.C.:

What's the one with Matthew Braddock and the monkeys in space?

Jim:

Oh. Is it like X. Project X.

T.C.:

Project X. What's that movie about?

Jim:

Oh god. This is gonna sound a lot like war games.

T.C.:

It's it's the monkeys. Yeah.

Jim:

Yeah. So that one, Matthew Broderick is he's like he takes care of the monkeys for this this program. Mhmm. But then it turns out they're sending them to space. But when they're going to space, like, they're dying, like, immediately.

T.C.:

This isn't a comedy.

Jim:

No. Rodney Beck's was not a comedy. What the

T.C.:

Rodney Beck's? And A very serious drama about

Jim:

And he wants to space. Protect them, and that's when the computer takes over.

T.C.:

There's a computer takeover.

Jim:

No. I'm, again, mixing up with war games. Okay. Oh, no. But there there is a simul like, yeah, like, they're they're doing, these simulator experiments that are getting monkeys killed or something.

Jim:

What?

T.C.:

Is that interesting?

Jim:

Yeah. But with monkeys. It's Ender's Game with Monkeys. Sorry.

T.C.:

That that's responding to the off Our our Yeah. It's it's it's Ender's Game with Monkeys and Matthew Braddock. And it's in the eighties. Right?

Jim:

I mean So he's

T.C.:

got the eighties hair.

Jim:

Oh gosh.

T.C.:

So Alright. You gotta

Jim:

reboot it. That's not a thing. But now I wanna see Ender's Game with Monkeys.

T.C.:

The studio demands it. We'll get we'll get Andy Serkis involved. Yeah. So it's like it'll confuse people because they'll think it's a sequel to the Planet of the Apes movies, but it's not. Can Matthew Broderick still be in it?

Jim:

Of course. Okay.

T.C.:

What was it called again? Project x?

Jim:

Project x. Yeah. All the

T.C.:

movies I that literally came out of top of I don't know why of all movies that's the one that came in. Oh my goodness. So what what do we do?

Jim:

I I don't actually I that's my closest guess

T.C.:

is What? Of what I

Jim:

what I remember it being about.

T.C.:

Yeah. Fact so Jim needs to be fact checked. You can you can twit you can Twitter paid at him Yeah. At two bach wexon.

Jim:

Two bach wexon.

T.C.:

Twit you can twit at him. Yeah. I was gonna say another word, but let's not offend anyone with

Jim:

Oh, yeah. Let's anyway, Studio Demands So where do

T.C.:

we What we're doing here, as I I said, we're gonna conceptualize a film. We don't know what the film is yet. We actually literally don't know what the zep you know what it's about because you clicked on it, and you saw the title. So Yeah. You know more than we do at this point.

T.C.:

But thank thank you for all the listeners who've been going to studiodemandsit.com or twit tweeting at us. Tweet. Your your your demands for films and properties. It's there's some fun ones. There's a couple we've been getting we can't do because Jim hasn't seen them or I haven't seen them.

T.C.:

So they wouldn't be very good.

Jim:

Well, so that that's something I've brought up in the past, and and you skillfully dodge Well the question every time. And it's understandable. I've been basically broaching the topic of homework. Like, do do we do we start assigning ourselves homework to be ready for these things?

T.C.:

Well, that maybe, but then at the same time, it's like, would it be worth it? For example, one of our Oh, sure. One of our wonderful listeners wants us to do a new season of Dexter. You have not seen Dexter.

Jim:

I have not seen Dexter.

T.C.:

I I would love to. I would love to do that for the listener. I would love to do that because I I have ideas for what I would do with a Dexter.

Jim:

Maybe You're just being me going Uh-huh. Okay.

T.C.:

It'd be better. I mean,

Jim:

that sounds

T.C.:

fine. All over again. So I don't know. May maybe maybe in the future if we do, like, a rapid fire episode of ideas, I'll get I'll get the Dexter idea out there. Or if we make Jim sit through Yeah.

T.C.:

A series that certainly existed.

Jim:

I've done it before.

T.C.:

But, we do have demands that we can do, which is what we're gonna do today. So we are going to take one of our listeners' requests, one of our one of their demands that was submitted at studiodemandsit.com, where you too can submit an episode as long as well as name your studio. So with that said, I'm gonna go to my lovely assistant over here. Oh, wait. Okay.

T.C.:

Did it go away again? Let's find out. So today, the damn it. Jim, I'm doing the I'm

Jim:

doing the thing. This is me vamping. Yes. Yeah. I'm dancing.

Jim:

This is there's dancing happening.

T.C.:

Alright. So the Demand is a vampire who's really good at vamping.

Jim:

Yeah. Yeah.

T.C.:

And he vapes. He's a vaping vampire who vamps.

Jim:

Vaping vamping vampire.

T.C.:

Yeah. Oh, that was better. Yeah. He's a

Jim:

Can we could what's that?

T.C.:

Justin Timberlake plays him.

Jim:

Oh, now it's amazing. Yeah. Originally, it was gonna be like, this is a really hard and then you instantly sold it. Yep. I would Tim, like, I should watch that.

T.C.:

Vampire. Why the hell would I want? He's the host of a late night show, like a Tonight Show style show.

Jim:

Oh. Oh, and the conflict is is it's not doing well, and they want to move him to a daytime slot. And he can't.

T.C.:

We got this we got this beautiful spot for you in daytime. I can't do it. Alright. So today from Carly from the fictional studio of Burrito Madness. Interesting.

T.C.:

What does she demand? She demands. They've been trying it for years. Bring back who you feel is necessary for the Goonies two. Now this is a this might end up being a video game adaptation episode because there is a Goonies two.

Jim:

You know what? That game was rad. You had a yo yo. It was great.

T.C.:

Okay, Carly, from Studio Burrito Madness, The Goonies two. The Goonies two. Okay. Interestingly enough, I just watched The Goonies on the airplane on a trip I went on recently. I mean, it's not the first time I've seen it.

T.C.:

I'm getting a dirty look for is that what you're thinking? Like, I just saw it for the It's just coincidentally, I have watched it in the past, like, month or so, couple months or so. And, yeah. Do do you know The Goonies?

Jim:

I do know The Goonies.

T.C.:

Actually, the I was reading the script as well because I was referencing it for a project I was working on.

Jim:

Mhmm.

T.C.:

And there were the script is what you see on the screen. Very like, there's a lot of times I'll read a screenplay and then see what was made like, movie that was made out of it, and there'll be changes and whatnot. That script is verbatim what's up on the screen. Like, the only thing that wasn't on the screen at any point is the the area they live in is called the Goon Docks, G 00 N. The Goon that's why they're the Goonies.

Jim:

Gotcha. Instead of the Boonies.

T.C.:

They're the Goonies. Yeah. That that was the only thing from the script. I was like, oh, well, that explains the name Yeah. And why the

Jim:

I mean, it does. It was always wired. They I I guess they're kind of goons, but they're little kids. Yeah. So they're Goonies.

T.C.:

They're from the Goondacks. You Goonies. So premise of the first Goonies is that a developer has bought all the land. Right? And he's going to I don't wanna watch it recently.

T.C.:

Why am asking you? Jim, what's this movie about? What's The Goonies about?

Jim:

What's it's what you just said. Stuff is gonna be happening to the neighborhood. Mhmm. And these kids sure don't like that because this is where they have their adventures and stuff. And so they're like, but there's treasure to be had because my grandpa said, and so they go on a treasure hunt.

Jim:

They're like, there's a map in this room

T.C.:

here somewhere. Willie Yeah. Which is a penis joke.

Jim:

Oh, what?

T.C.:

You didn't get that.

Jim:

I just thought it was a Bill Clinton joke.

T.C.:

Both.

Jim:

That's actually that's a couple layers deep. I apologize. I am offended. Tweet at Jim. Yeah.

Jim:

And then so then they actually managed to find the map, and they follow the map. Mhmm. And they find the treasure.

T.C.:

They save

Jim:

a lot of details here. The Goonies. And because they yeah. Be they they they save the neighborhood. I'm not saying that name.

Jim:

And because of all the treasure they found.

T.C.:

So the that's yeah. That's the movie. And, like, the adventure part of it, like, actually go through the caves and whatnot, it's like it takes, like, halfway through the movie till they finally do it. And it's and it's almost quaint compared to these sort of adventure movies you get now. Even seeing, like, the the previews for Dora the Explorer and and and movies of that ilk where it's like, oh, it's a kids movie.

T.C.:

It's adventure movie. There's traps and It's very quaint what they go through in the film that I I don't I I'm not quite sure the Goonies would appeal to a younger audience now. Like, we we loved it as kids because they were we were about their age when that movie came out, maybe a little older. But, now we have the Marvel Cinematic Universe and transformers and John Wick. Like, not that a kid should be watching John Wick, but could a like, look at Super eight.

T.C.:

Super eight definitely has some qualities to it. It's a love letter to Spielbergisms, and Spielberg did produce The Goonies.

Jim:

Sure. I think I think you can. I I think you still you still do see stories, even adventure stories that take place in a town or in a like a individual town Mhmm. Or just like like your your own little neighborhood. The the first one that's coming to mind was oh, crap.

Jim:

It it came out last year, the year before. It's a zombie Christmas movie. It was Mhmm. Okay. British?

Jim:

Yeah. Don't Scott? No. British. It was it was very funny, but it was just in this neighborhood.

Jim:

It was about high school kids.

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

It had themes of of growing up wanting to leave town, not being able yeah. It was.

T.C.:

Oh, okay. Alright. Yeah. I know I know which movie you're referencing.

Jim:

Can't remember the title, but I just as an example of a movie that takes place in a town.

T.C.:

A single location. So could is this a matter of replicating what worked before and just doing it in a in a, you know, 2020 style film? Is this a

Jim:

It is Goonies two. So it is a sequel, not a reboot.

T.C.:

Okay. So we you can do sequels that are also soft reboots a la Force Awakens or Star Trek. Mhmm. Sure. The 2,009 Star Trek.

T.C.:

You can Evil Dead two. Evil Dead two. You can do soft reboots and sequels at the same time, which, you know, that's a bit of the trend in Hollywood that the studio might might ask of such a thing. Can you send a group of kids somehow related to the original group of kids on an adventure to find a treasure? Yes.

T.C.:

I think there's there's a premise there.

Jim:

Mhmm.

T.C.:

But can you real world it? Is a is a is a is a premise like that for Goonies now work for an audience that is used to superheroes and supernatural elements and video games that you get sucked into? You know what I'm saying? Like

Jim:

I think so. So, yes, and and the thing is we we would be able to use some of the the technology that is is now bigger and better.

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

But aside from possibly the number of undead, Pirates of the Caribbean was pretty much the same tech level as The Goonies.

T.C.:

No. But the Goonies

Jim:

Like, as far as the adventures they're going on.

T.C.:

Okay. But the The Goonies face off against mobsters, so you got Sure. The the Farrellis.

Jim:

I I have a plot in mind. Oh. By the way. Yeah.

T.C.:

I will I will just say the only big major monster special effect at all that's in Goonies was cut, and it's the squid. Yeah. Which for the longest time

Jim:

I remember so well.

T.C.:

It was in the TV version.

Jim:

Yeah.

T.C.:

And remember telling my older sister, Allie, like, oh, saw Goonies and there's squid, and she had seen that movie a ton. And she's like, there's no squid. I'm like, no, there's a squid. I saw this guy, and there was a and they put Michael Jackson in his mouth, he moonwalks away, and she's like, you are insane. That does not exist.

T.C.:

I've seen this movie. For years, she just refused to believe. And then I think, maybe she saw it on TV or a deleted scene on DVD and was like, you were right. There's a squid. And Data even says at the end of the movie, even though the scene is cut, oh, and the squid was really scary.

T.C.:

Yeah. So anyway, so you have a plot in mind. Yeah. We think you know where to go

Jim:

with this. So if I remember right, it takes place in the Northwest?

T.C.:

Yeah. It looks like it's the Great. Good. American Northwest.

Jim:

So I think we take The Goonies, maybe maybe just one of them, and they've grown up, and they've moved to the big city.

T.C.:

Corey Feldman will be all over this. I do not want him involved.

Jim:

No. Well, I I Oh, Sean Corey Feldman. Yeah. Sean Astin is is the one. That that's just right.

Jim:

He's he's the head Goonies.

T.C.:

Not love Samwise Gamgee or Battle from Stranger Things or Mikey from Goonies. Yeah.

Jim:

Actually, now that I think about it, we probably could and should jam in as many cameos

T.C.:

Yeah. If we can. Let's They're watching Mouth on TV. Mouth is some he's a late night talk show host.

Jim:

Here's what I'm thinking. Well oh, so actually that my plot might not work with Sean Astin because Mikey would not have moved away from the Goon Docs. Mhmm. I said it. Said I wouldn't say it.

T.C.:

How do you feel about it? You don't good, Ace.

Jim:

I I I feel bad. I feel bad about it. So someone, one of them, we can revise this. This doesn't have to be where this goes. I just need to get this out before it makes me explode.

Jim:

Go. Has moved to the big city. They've moved to Seattle.

T.C.:

Okay.

Jim:

And they have kids. And their kids have friends, and they have kind of either taken on the mantle of the Goonies or their dad calls them that

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

Or or or something like that. And so that's that's sort of how and why they take on the name. Maybe that's not true to the original. Maybe it does need to be set in the original neighborhood. We can come back to that once I finish this bot.

Jim:

So the kids hear of an old treasure, an old we'll even say mobster treasure. Right?

T.C.:

Oh, okay.

Jim:

Well, I guess it could be pirates. We can make up a reason that there were pirates in Seattle. Maybe having some something to do with the old timey

T.C.:

Yeah. That could be gold rush.

Jim:

Pioneer period. Yeah. It could be

T.C.:

gold prospector, treasure, like a mine. It could be a mine with a treasure inside it.

Jim:

And find out about a treasure map, and it's going to be, like like, the the whole area that it that this is purportedly to take place in

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

Is going to be completely redone with a huge like, a skyscraper is gonna be put in that go that that's going to be dug Into the sky.

T.C.:

Yeah. As as low as it is high.

Jim:

Yeah. And the reason that's a problem is it's gonna mess up the treasure. No one's gonna find it, so the kids decide to go find it themselves, and they get to run around the underground Seattle because there's a whole I don't know if if you know about Seattle. Seattle is built on top of Old Seattle. So there's, like, whole neighborhoods that are just walled off and Underground.

Jim:

Underground.

T.C.:

Yeah. Okay.

Jim:

Cool. There. And and that is that is where it would take place. We can we can put some more

T.C.:

No. I think

Jim:

Like, some adversaries Yeah. Going after the treasure as well.

T.C.:

If we make the treasure prospector gold, like it's a frontier era or, you know, that forty niners style gold prospector mineshafts big gold rush

Jim:

coin. Wanna do mobsters as as the villains, it could actually be mobsters stored their money there stowed their money there.

T.C.:

Oh, like bootleggers. Like, some sort of prohibition era, which right on the, between British Columbia and Texada Island was a huge waypoint for the Canadian prohibition, smugglers. There you go. Yeah. Because there was an overlap in Prohibition in America and Canada.

T.C.:

They only had one year where both countries were completely dry. Canada did it, and just when they gave up, America did it. So there's one year where there's an overlap. So there's your history. Sure.

T.C.:

A little bit of history lesson of so, yeah, I like that. It's it's it's not prospect or gold. It's gangster. It's a gangster cache of of Yeah. Money.

Jim:

And but because this entire area is gonna be demolished, the descendants of those original gangsters

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

Have they're like, oh, we know about this too, and we need to go get

T.C.:

very cliche voices.

Jim:

Yeah. Yeah. Living here in the Northwest for so long. Wow. Wow.

Jim:

Wow. And Waluigi's

T.C.:

there for all He's the best character we've come up Yeah. So, yeah, so they're going up against basically gangsters again. Mhmm. The the descendants of they're not connected to the Fertellis, all I don't think we need to do that. Could the could the gangsters be trying to think.

T.C.:

Is there any maybe we don't need to overcomplicate who the bad guys are. They're just bad guys trying to get the gold too. Right?

Jim:

That that's currently where I'm at. I think it it could be connected to the Fratelli's.

T.C.:

Okay.

Jim:

I don't Joey can't be

T.C.:

still around.

Jim:

Yeah. Don't have an idea how, but but it could be.

T.C.:

Yeah. Okay. Maybe they so you don't wanna bust one out at the beginning. That's why they're escaping and then finding out about the money and trying to go after it after the kids as well. So we we basically have our setting.

T.C.:

They're gonna go down to this mineshaft and explore underneath Seattle, which is a thing I didn't know existed. That's pretty I knew about New York has lots of old subways and that people explore all the time. You No. This is like full on storefronts. Wow.

T.C.:

Really? Yeah. Underneath the city. That's that's incredible. That's fun.

Jim:

Because well, because at one time, that was the city, and then they just built a new one on top. Alright. Well, okay. So that's simplifying how it actually was, and it's probably not even that large of an area at this point, but this is fiction. We're having

T.C.:

we're having fun with history. Right? I'm teaching you about prohibition. Yeah. You're teaching me about Seattle.

T.C.:

Yeah. Alright. Well, let's think characters here. So we have if if Mikey is the dad of the Goonies, then who wouldn't wanna again, Sean Astin, who wouldn't wanna see him? Yep.

T.C.:

If you do wanna throw in cameos of the other characters, I think seeing, I I said mouth being some sort of, like, like, a Joe Rogan type. Like a TV personality? Not even a TV personality. Like a like a online personality like Joe Rogan podcasting. Yeah.

T.C.:

Just very mouthy. He'd Sure. Like a a wannabe Howard Stern. Okay. Yeah.

T.C.:

And as obnoxious as Corey Feldman actually is. He wouldn't have to be a stretch for him. Chunk could have some sort of

Jim:

That's the that's the one element we I I don't know how to incorporate gracefully. What's that? Is is oh oh, you said would be sloth.

T.C.:

Chunk and sloth. Yeah. I'd I'd wonder if Chunk could be some sort of again, these could be cameos or these could be bigger. It could be their kids going on the adventure. Right?

T.C.:

Like, Mikey could still be friends with with Chunk, and Chunk is some like a Ben and Jerry's kind of what, like, chunk and sloth ice cream.

Jim:

Like, they they created, like, Rocky Road.

T.C.:

Right? Like, they created some sort of Ben and Jerry's empire.

Jim:

Sure.

T.C.:

That, you know, sloth would have passed away. He's he

Jim:

Oh, sure. Okay.

T.C.:

Data. Yeah. Data could be some sort of tech cheat. Like, do we want all of them to have succeeded except Mikey who is, like, just a very

Jim:

poor guy? Even even he would have not like like, even if he's I think, to say stay true to the character, he would've stayed in the old neighborhood that he saved. I I don't know why that feels the most true to that character. So do they go from premise, it would have to be someone else's kid.

T.C.:

Okay. Data would be Andy and and Bran would be Sure. Josh Brolin and Yeah. The girl played Andy. It could be their kids.

T.C.:

Sure. Oh, okay. There it is. Mikey could visit and plant the seed in his nephew's head much to the chagrin of Bran who's like, don't look. Don't fill my kid with your crazy adventure stories.

T.C.:

Because in the original Goonies, it was his brand.

Jim:

I'm not gonna have them climbing down wells.

T.C.:

And fighting on a pirate ship. That brand, they're not gonna fight on a pirate ship. And then in the end, I I told you, there was no pirate ship. I wasn't wrong. There it is.

T.C.:

So Mikey's staying behind.

Jim:

I kinda wanna put a pirate ship in there somehow.

T.C.:

Somewhere? Yeah. The opening scene is at some sort of amusement park that

Jim:

has pirate ship. Was thinking, like, there actually is a pirate they find a pirate ship in some underground dock or something.

T.C.:

It's Seattle.

Jim:

And then, yeah, and then and then at the end, Josh Burzel was like, you said there wasn't.

T.C.:

You said there wouldn't be a pirate ship. That's literally a pirate ship. I'm gonna snap you out of existence so hard.

Jim:

Cross world references.

T.C.:

Yeah. Because he's Thanos. Yeah. Yeah. I think I think that's it.

T.C.:

Mikey stayed behind. He's the one who plants the seed of adventure in his nephew. Ornies? You know, let's let's think now. We have our original characters.

T.C.:

What do we do with our new cast of characters? Do we have analogs for Mikey, Mouth, Data, and Chunk? Sure. Cortana?

Jim:

First answer is sure. Yeah. So I I guess let let's let's think. So if it's the original Goonies sort of inspiring something in in a bunch of kids new new kids, so it'd be Mikey's nephew or niece.

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

What if Mikey also has kids, but so so they're they're cousins.

T.C.:

Okay.

Jim:

But I think would be fun is if they don't necessarily get along.

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

So going on

T.C.:

Oh, so then they have go on an adventure together. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like that.

T.C.:

Let's let's put the two of them together, and then you have, like, an unlucky pairing of I don't want sort of like Bran was pissed that he had to go along with with Mike in the original Goonies. Now you have, two cousins, one who was, you know, I I forced to stay with him for the weekend because what have you. Yeah. Dad's always talking to you're all I love uncle Mike. He's always talking about that.

T.C.:

No. It's it's dumb. Like, your dad is you know, got a real job. My dad works at a restoration library. It's dumb.

T.C.:

Like, I don't like my dad. My dad is dumb. No. Your dad is cool. Excitement.

T.C.:

Adventure. I like it.

Jim:

Oh, okay. I see what you're saying. I was, for for whatever reason, I was actually thinking the opposite. And maybe maybe that's that's too static. Have having the the boring brother that boring is not the right word, but be have the boring kid and the treasure hunting brother have the treasure hunting kid.

Jim:

No.

T.C.:

It's flipping it. Yeah. Flipping it. Flipping probably probably better. It over to the other side.

Jim:

Yeah. So that way we get to see both sides of the coin.

T.C.:

And they learn to care about each other along the way. That they they go through the adventure together, and one learns to be less adventurous and more responsible, and the other one learns to be a little more adventurous and less uptight. Wait. Did I just say the same thing twice?

Jim:

And then from there, I I I think we recruit just friends of well, probably Josh Brolin's kid.

T.C.:

Mhmm. Kids from the neighborhood Yeah. That are involved in this. Some Data's a great character for the original in that he has the little the crappy inventions that sort of help them along the way. Is there some sort of 2020 version of that that we can put in this?

T.C.:

Someone who's really good with their cell phone. I don't know. Like, what is the

Jim:

With the bleep bloops.

T.C.:

With the bleeps and the bloops and the and

Jim:

the machines and the goings ons. We somehow have Healy's or Healy's still media.

T.C.:

They're tweeting about it the whole time.

Jim:

What if what if they're they're streaming on Twitch?

T.C.:

We found your kids. How? Well, they're streaming it live, so

Jim:

it was

T.C.:

really easy.

Jim:

Yeah. Really popular.

T.C.:

It's a very short movie. I don't know.

Jim:

Short answer, again, yes. We could just say yes, there is, and we can give them whatever wacky inventions we want to. Mhmm. It's a matter of how plausible that is.

T.C.:

Let's let's take let's take the the invention angle out of it and someone obsessed with video games, someone obsessed with I I jokingly said John Wick as a kid's movie earlier when I was listing off movies. But having a kid who carries paintball guns on him and thinks he's freaking Neo. Like someone who's a weirdo kid who is just obsessed with movie, like, movie action hero. So he gets a Okay. Paintball, like, shootout scene in this movie.

T.C.:

Like, you see what I'm saying?

Jim:

Like I I do.

T.C.:

We not having someone who has inventions that help him along the way, someone who's Who

Jim:

has guns?

T.C.:

Like

Jim:

how very American. You know what'll solve this situation? A gun. A gun.

T.C.:

Sorry? I don't know.

Jim:

I No. No.

T.C.:

There are people listening who's like, great idea. Just just giving some sort of hyper stylized shootout sequence where he's popping off Paint. Paint balls at a at a actual gangster with the real gun who's like, and was slipping and sliding and being made a fool of and never getting off a shot of their actual gun. Yeah. There there could be something to that.

T.C.:

I'm I'm I still don't know if this is enough to engage an audience. The everything even with a paintball kid, is that

Jim:

That that was it. That was our that was the pinnacle of what we had to offer was paintball kid.

T.C.:

This isn't I don't feel like this is a movie that would be good enough when you have something like Jumanji two Welcome to the Jungle and you have,

Jim:

like, this

T.C.:

just it's

Jim:

That's not I I mean

T.C.:

It's it sounds boring to an audience. I'm I'm playing studio right now, and I'm saying this isn't this sounds like a dumb little kids movie.

Jim:

I mean, it's not little kids, but it's not it's meant to be like an all ages family movie kind of thing. Like, it's supposed to appeal to kids. It's supposed to ignite your imagination for your own lit for for the the area you live in.

T.C.:

I think that's the problem.

Jim:

You might be you might be living on top of a treasure filled adventure.

T.C.:

But do do and and this is just speaking of I I have my nieces and nephews. I don't have kids, so I don't know. Do kids still go out and build forts in the trees in the backyard? Like, is that are are kids so obsessed with their cell phones and video games and tablets that they're not getting out there and mixing it up, like like, you know? Do I sound like

Jim:

No. I I you you to to me, you you sound like a radio an AM radio show guy. Kids these days Yeah. They're They don't ride their bikes anymore.

T.C.:

Kids don't ride their bikes. Well, like, look at stranger things. I freaking love stranger things. That show is phenomenal. And but it needs to be set in the eighties because if you and if they delve into the early nineties, that's fine.

T.C.:

Harry Potter has to be set in the as in the early nineties. It it can't be any later than that because once you get computers involved, once you get modern technology, cell phone technology involved, it kinda ruins a lot of the adventure. That's why it's so dumb when you see contrivances of like, oh, my battery on my cell phone died. Oh, I can't get service out here.

Jim:

Well, you're not wrong. However, I have I do have to say, when you're underneath the city Your cell phone Seattle, your cell your your cell phones are not going to work.

T.C.:

Okay. Alright. Maybe I

Jim:

And, actually, wasn't there even one of the plots of Goonies was they were underground so they couldn't get a radio signal for the walkie talkies?

T.C.:

No. I don't no. I

Jim:

thought there was a thing and they had to reach up when in one of the no. Making stuff up now.

T.C.:

You're watching Stranger Things is what

Jim:

you're What am remembering?

T.C.:

SpaceX. That's the one. Project X.

Jim:

Yeah. The

T.C.:

monkey couldn't get there.

Jim:

Yeah. Monkey.

T.C.:

Matthew Broderick was like, I can't hear you. Yeah. You're underground.

Jim:

The monkey was like, can can you hear me now?

T.C.:

We've lost the thread. Where are we?

Jim:

Yep. Goonies too.

T.C.:

Does does this work in a modern setting? Does that is that enough of an adventure that they go like, okay. Not really the same thing, but kind of what I'm talking about in terms of, like, why does this movie exist in the aught tens. Right? Mhmm.

T.C.:

Premium Rush starring Joseph Gordon Levitt. He's a bike courier, and the movie is all about bike couriers around New York City and gangsters, and they're they're riding their bikes all extreme. And it's it's fine. Who's asking for that? Where's the extreme bicyclists that are

Jim:

There is a there is a community of of of bicyclists. Bicycles are not a thing that are done and gone.

T.C.:

True. But, like, that's such a that seems like a eighties movie. It's a very quaint idea. Niche.

Jim:

Yeah. But, yeah, like like, that is a community. I I don't know. I think

T.C.:

Like, Fast and the Furious used to be about a bunch of drag racers who stole DVD players. Yeah. Now they are literally saving the world from superhumans. They are going to space. No doubt about this.

T.C.:

By the tenth movie, they'll be up there. Believe me. So can a group of, like, four or five kids go underneath the city of Seattle and follow a labyrinth of potential booby traps all in search of gold with no magic, no monster special effects? Does that sell? Is that enough?

T.C.:

I the studio asked us to make a Goonies too.

Jim:

I really like, yeah. There's no magic. Yeah. There's like, there can be special effects in those traps. You mentioned like, we didn't even talk about the the set pieces they would go

T.C.:

through. True.

Jim:

That's that's fair. Think that would be that would be where a bunch of the adventure come comes in. Mhmm. You can you can have them going through through old bootlegger tunnels and and

T.C.:

skeletons chained to the wall that have booby traps on them.

Jim:

Yeah. And and I realized mobsters aren't really known for their riddles the way pirates were, but we could figure something out.

T.C.:

Here's what you gotta do, c. But the c is a letter c. Play the piano no. Play the violin that has the c. It's not a violin.

T.C.:

There's a machine gun in here. Give it to me. No. No. No.

T.C.:

No. You you do not get a real gun. Oh, come on, guys. Nah. That's that that's that's too real.

T.C.:

Yeah. I'm a little think might have lost you.

Jim:

I don't know. Like, as far as the intro goes, think that would be a part of it is is most of the kids would would be on their phones and tablets and their their bleep bloop doop dabs. And You too and Twitch and The one kid who's really excited to go on an actual adventure would kinda be dragging everyone else along.

T.C.:

Could he get upset at one point, snatch other like, grab another phone and smash it situation? Or like

Jim:

I I think that's that's too much looking at the audience and saying, get off your phones and go have an adventure.

T.C.:

That's not our case.

Jim:

What I that's not what I mean to do here. Could

T.C.:

okay. Let's let's alter the stakes a little bit here. Could this be the

Jim:

Like, in fact, I I because I think they would they would remain they would keep their phones. I think they would go underground. They would lose their signal, but they'd still be doing things like recording. They'd be trying to get signals. Mhmm.

Jim:

And I think you would even have the what is probably even cliche by now, but you would have the the scene where the the gangsters are doing something

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

And then one of the kids pulls out their phone and takes a picture.

T.C.:

Yeah. And that's why the gangsters are chasing them. Yeah. Yeah. Or chasing them to get the they prove they prove we're up to no good.

T.C.:

Mhmm. Oh, hey. They're also after a treasure. Like Yeah. Because the fatalities originally weren't they were just, oh, these kids saw that we are out of jail.

Jim:

Sure.

T.C.:

Oh, they're also going after a treasure. Let's do that. So okay. Yeah. You've you've given us a reason for the bad guys to be chasing them.

Jim:

Could It still doesn't convince you there's a movie you wanna

T.C.:

Well, no. I'd I'd I'd I would love to see a movie like this, but I just feel like is this enough of you know? Yeah. It probably is enough. Good Boys, I think, is a more a more recent kids film, but it's rated

Jim:

No. No. It's it's not a kid

T.C.:

Or it's a movie with kids in it. Yeah. Sorry. And and that's that's super bad with 10 year olds. Like, it's not the right idea here.

T.C.:

And I think of super eight, which has a lot of it's Goonies meets Cloverfield, but you got the Cloverfield angle to drag people into it. I I do like the idea of just sending some kids on an adventure. If the kids are written well enough and acted well enough, that's why the original Goonies is still good, as quaint as it is, as simplistic as the plot is. Sean Astin, Corey Feldman, Junk Data, Josh Bowen, they're all very compelling young actors. And stranger things has given us a cast of young actors who are charismatic and compelling.

T.C.:

Yes. They have the supernatural Sure. Behind it. I'm So children can't act. I I have seen it done.

T.C.:

I have seen it done. I know everyone else doubted it, but I believe that this is a possibility. Is this enough of a film? What have we have we satisfied the demand before even our commercial break? Because I don't know.

T.C.:

What what else can be done here?

Jim:

I we we can fill it out with set pieces, like specific scenes. Okay.

T.C.:

Well, let's let's take a quick break here, and we'll come back with some ideas. Cool. That was a very lame send off to this commercial break. Here you go. Hello.

T.C.:

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T.C.:

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T.C.:

Cool. Think I got something here. Okay. I think okay. So we have we have a couple characters here.

T.C.:

We have we have our two cousins, one who wants to go on the adventure, one who's kinda being dragged along. Mhmm. Right? Maybe, Mikey's Mikey's kid is the one who doesn't wanna be there. Mhmm.

T.C.:

Bran's kid is the one who, oh, your dad loved adventures. Used to tell me about all the time. So he's they're being dragged along together.

Jim:

So and he and so so the the the excited one's all the enthusiasm. Mhmm. And the the other one, as they go, they keep running into situations where they they're like, oh, what do we do now? And and he reluctantly is like, oh, wait. No.

Jim:

I do know what to do here.

T.C.:

Okay. Yeah. He's

Jim:

got the He's got all of the knowledge even though He doesn't wanna

T.C.:

utilize it. Yeah. I love that. That's great. And we have I what do you think of a kid who's obsessed with video games?

T.C.:

Do you think that's having a kid who's obsessed with guns is a is a bad idea in the in the climate that we exist in today? I'm not trying to be insensitive. I'm actually curious if, like

Jim:

Sure.

T.C.:

Having someone. It's basically, like, if he had a sling shot, then it'd be fine. But the fact that

Jim:

he's Would it even I'm maybe I don't I don't know. I I don't I don't actually know the answer to

T.C.:

that question. Let me and we we have

Jim:

Now because now all I'm thinking of is Mike TV from

T.C.:

Right. Right. Right.

Jim:

Good. How would how would how would Mike TV go over nowadays?

T.C.:

He would not have guns. So so maybe I'm being insensitive by having guns. So let me let me alter the character here a little bit.

Jim:

Knives. Yeah.

T.C.:

Knives. He's just he's got a razor blade. He's like Just in the knife. Fold out ones.

Jim:

Yeah. He's like Got, like, six ninja stars.

T.C.:

He has ninja stars. That's it. That and nunchucks. Yeah. He's he's he's obsessed with ninjas.

Jim:

He's a ninja kid.

T.C.:

So he's a ninja kid, and he has nunchucks, and that is very departed from Data as a character. Now he's just a kid who's clearly got anger issues and whose parents have let him get away with way too much. Why does that kid have nunchucks? And why does he keep calling them num chunks?

Jim:

Num chunks.

T.C.:

They can call him Chucks. They shirt

Jim:

they shirt good.

T.C.:

Because chunks chunks

Jim:

Yeah.

T.C.:

And chucks. It sounds the same, but it's It does. Shut. Okay. I'm telling you to shut up.

T.C.:

Yeah. About a kid and and this is a bit of meta. I'm trying to I'm inserting a little bit of metaphysical humor here. A kid who's constantly one their fourth kid who is is is positive that they're gonna come across ghosts or zombies or some sort of monster supernatural element that never comes.

Jim:

Why would that not be the the first kid? Why would that be a different kid?

T.C.:

The adventure kid? Like, the two cousins and not the not the obsessive one? Mhmm.

Jim:

And because you're right. We need to fill out the cast. Yeah. But the it it seems like the kid who's thirsty for adventure Mhmm. Would be the same kid who's going to think all of these things are real Oh, well, let's and seeking them out.

T.C.:

Having having

Jim:

Because What what what the

T.C.:

idio I'm cutting you off.

Jim:

No. Yeah.

T.C.:

Having the idio, super ego kinda scenario here, if the adventuring kid is the the super ego, he's like, oh, let's have this adventure just like your dad did. We'll go to these caves. We're gonna find the treasure. And then you have the other kid saying, this is dumb, adventures are stupid, I don't wanna do it. And then the adventuring kid like, no, I will have to go against booby traps, and we'll have to go against this.

T.C.:

Like, he's excited for the potential of reality, whereas their their third friend who's the crazy one is like, yeah. And then the skeletons come to life. Skeletons don't come to life. Yes. Skeletons don't don't come to life.

T.C.:

The two cousins can bond over the fact that this one kid keeps taking his imagination too far.

Jim:

Just keeps going going too far with

T.C.:

it? So then if they do come across one

Jim:

of the boobies I imagine they would. So our version of sloth in this Mhmm. I'm gonna pitch Bigfoot.

T.C.:

I don't

Jim:

know why Bigfoot's underground.

T.C.:

It's the Maybe Northwest.

Jim:

Maybe, yeah, maybe they they get out into the woods for just a super sec.

T.C.:

Just like a crazy Fox Malder kid who who believes in the crazy

Jim:

Dib Dib from Indemnity Zim.

T.C.:

There you go. Yeah. Yeah. He he's he constantly thinks they're gonna come across something. So then when, like, the climax is happening, they do come across a pirate ship and ghosts, like, something that seemingly looks like ghosts, he can be like, I was right.

T.C.:

So the kind of the commentary that I keep giving of, like, how how does this movie fit in the modern era? It's not big and exciting enough. So he keeps scenario did you see Toy Story four? No. No?

T.C.:

Okay. There's two characters

Jim:

I missed I missed, like, all but three movies this summer. Damn. Yeah. I'm I'm bad movie man.

T.C.:

He and Peele's character characters in Toy Story four constantly keep painting scenarios where they get to do stuff that's, like, impossible. Where like, why would we become the size of Godzilla and we crush them all? And you get to see it happening. So perhaps the character who constantly thinks ghosts are gonna attack and monsters are gonna attack, when he explains it, we get to see it and then cut back to them being like, that's not gonna that's not gonna happen. So that

Jim:

you're you're talking you're talking like Family Guy cutaways?

T.C.:

Okay. Yeah. I guess that does delve into Family Guy territory.

Jim:

What if so we take that kid with all of his ghost stories. Mhmm. And he's the one to hit all the beats of the original Goonies that gets captured by the gangsters.

T.C.:

So he's dragging them through it all?

Jim:

Sort of. The thing is, so he's going on about his stories about like, oh, in this part of town, this person died like this, and there are 40 people. And so and they say that their souls never and so

T.C.:

They ate their bodies.

Jim:

And at first at first, the gangster, like, just just shut up. Shut this kid up. But it gets to the point, like and and and they keep trying to gag him for whatever reason they can't or whatever. Ultimately, his stories get to them, and he

T.C.:

Freaks him out.

Jim:

Freaks him out. And and they're able to use that to their advantage

T.C.:

Okay.

Jim:

Somehow.

T.C.:

I don't that that's funny. That I like that. It's a little too similar to to Chunk having him be captured, and I I I but I do like the idea of okay. You got there's good there. There's bad there.

T.C.:

Okay. The pseudoromantic angle that you see between Bran and Andy in the original Goonies, where he just wants to take her out, and he's she's dating the cool football player and ends up sticking with brand.

Jim:

Yeah. That's that's something that we we don't yet have the angle of of the age gap between the the kids. Kids. So in in Goonies, they they did some really interesting things with the the Goonies who were just on the verge of becoming teenagers or they were they were early teens. And then the the disaffected teens who were already there, but they're like, oh, I guess we gotta go along anyway.

T.C.:

Right.

Jim:

Right? And so there was there was that dichotomy on top of the the not conflict, just the not drama. The the the things between each of them, like, the relationship going going on there and

T.C.:

yeah. So we don't have if the cousins have the age gap, if Mikey's kid and Brandon's kid are ten years apart or eight years apart or whatnot. Maybe not ten. That might be a big gap. Four.

T.C.:

Yeah. Like Three? Five five years apart. If it's 12 year olds and 17 year olds, I don't know. Do the math.

T.C.:

Is twelve

Jim:

twelve right the the right yeah. 12 is the right age and 17. That still seems too much, but whatever. 16?

T.C.:

They could drive one week. Yeah. So having that age gap, yeah, that creates a bit of a of a conflict there. But then having the it's it's again, I hate to go to Stranger Things constantly, but it's so good. The kids dealing with their issues as adolescents, and then Steve and Nancy and Jonathan dealing with the teenager issues Sure.

T.C.:

And then combining them together. So having some sort of interest or romantic interest involved in here on the adventure, is there something to that? Like, do we wanna just do that again?

Jim:

Yeah. Radio silence is is always good.

T.C.:

That's why I'm humming.

Jim:

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well So what if what if we change the not the motivation, but the the inciting incident that actually gets them to so the whole time, the adventure kid Mhmm. Is he's super excited like, oh, and uncle Mikey told me about this, and uncle Mikey told me about this. And he's like, I don't care.

Jim:

Can we please just, like, do anything else other than talk about my dad's weird obsessions? Mhmm. No. No. We can't because he'd said this and this.

Jim:

Mhmm. In the meantime, maybe there is an older sibling that has to that gets forced to take them somewhere.

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

Right? Like you I'm gonna go hang out with my friends. You have to take your brother and your cousin because they're visiting. And they go, and that's that's and so he so the older kid, whether boy or girl, gets to meet up with their older friends and they're gonna hang out and do angsty teen teen stuff. Mhmm.

Jim:

But that would dovetail really well into, oh, we're gonna go hang out in an abandoned underground thing? Yeah. Cool. That sounds fun. Yeah.

Jim:

Can we come to

T.C.:

and then he has oh, and he drags them along and then they

Jim:

Well, he drags them along to their friends, and then adventure kid won't shut up about this underground place. So one of his friends is then one of the the older kid's friends is like, alright. I'm a I'm a call. Yeah. Let's do it.

Jim:

Where where is this at?

T.C.:

Let's try it. Okay. So then you have two teens going together that could potentially have some sort of

Jim:

Well, I'm right? I I actually think it'd be like four. Four total. Four. We we start with so we have two siblings

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

And a cousin. Mhmm. We have probably two more friends of the younger kids

T.C.:

That's five. Okay.

Jim:

That probably meet up with them after they leave the house is what I'm thinking. Mhmm. So the older kid is annoyed that even more little kids are there. Mhmm. But then he meets up with his his three friends, probably the girl he wants to hook up with, and then their two friends who are already together.

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

So then the what? One, two, eight. Mhmm. The eight of them oh, that's that's a bigger cast than I expected. All head into this underground.

T.C.:

And then

Jim:

And then adventures ensue.

T.C.:

Ensue. Okay. Well, let's talk about set pieces here. Let's let's think of what are some of the things they can go get involved in. I think some sort of mine cart situation, homage to Temple Of Doom.

Jim:

You know what I should have looked up on the break? I should have looked up on when the city was buried because I don't think it's that old.

T.C.:

Well, fantasy. It's a city on top of a city.

Jim:

That's fair.

T.C.:

Yeah. Having we're talking gangster gold, but there there was an element of gold

Jim:

rush. It mid mid nineteenth century. So yeah.

T.C.:

So there could be gold rush mine carts situation here. Now we're still dealing with gangster gold treasure, but we get to play with with a action set piece in homage of of, temple of doom. I mean, he I wouldn't even go all out and have a being having water, like, flood the caves kind of scenario here.

Jim:

Sure. Yeah. Now now I I get they're they're probably caves like

T.C.:

But if the micart situation ends, stopping with the feet, water, water. Guys, this is just like temple of doom. Except in Temple of Doom, there was water. Just go all in. Just go all in.

Jim:

I I think that's too old of a reference.

T.C.:

Oh, dang it. Dang it. For a kid to

Jim:

Yeah.

T.C.:

This is just like that really old movie, Temple of Doom.

Jim:

That my dad made me watch.

T.C.:

There you go. There you go. This is I've never seen that one. I do like Crystal Skull, though. Okay.

T.C.:

We're gonna leave you here.

Jim:

Yeah. This movie's done. Like, the characters say that.

T.C.:

Yeah.

Jim:

Yeah. They they just walk off camera.

T.C.:

And then the credits start to roll.

Jim:

Yeah. That nice. That was a weird ending.

T.C.:

Good. Guess I'm just doing this myself now. Family guy cut away. Yeah. There you go.

T.C.:

We're good we're good

Jim:

at this.

T.C.:

I'd hey. I think a a mine cart scenario just to have an action an exciting chase sequence of sorts.

Jim:

I think there's there's something to be done with I I don't know what the first the thing that always comes to mind is, like, in a like a a shoot a a gunslinger shootout Mhmm. Which doesn't necessarily fit what we're going for here. But the the underground the the old Seattle underground, like, it's a it's a full on city facade. So it's like, imagine Main Street

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

But underground. So what do you do with an abandoned empty Main Street?

T.C.:

Well, hipsters would make a coffee shop there.

Jim:

Oh, alright. Yeah. Oh, sorry. There's a coffee shop.

T.C.:

There's a film crew down there.

Jim:

Yeah. So I I imagine we we could do something with that. Oh. Even if it's even if it's a classic Scooby Doo running from door to door.

T.C.:

Wait. I I might have I might have sent this somewhere. Instead of a kid obsessed with with, paranormal stuff like that, which we could still do, or or have a sec one of the other characters be obsessed with filmmaking. Someone who would be having their phone out the whole time, wanting to be a YouTube star, documenting it Mhmm. Using special effects.

T.C.:

So then the there could be a a shootout with the gangsters against something that is actually just fireworks going off and made to look like, you know, utilizing stupid film tricks that kids would be able to do because of I don't know what

Jim:

it is. What if it's one of the teens and they're really into, like, almost like jackass kind of Yeah. Pranks and stuff, and so that's why they have all kinds of

T.C.:

A pocket full of things. Yeah.

Jim:

Yeah. And and and and other weird stuff.

T.C.:

Yeah. So using okay. So we could still have the kid thinking that all the paranormal stuff's gonna happen. You could have a kid one of the old kids be a YouTube prankster. Oh, that's so annoying, and I love it.

T.C.:

Yeah. Because mouth is an annoying little, like, in Yeah. Groot for his Goonies. I want someone to smack him. So having a YouTube prankster be one of our teenage characters that come along?

Jim:

Be the kid you wanna smack?

T.C.:

Yeah. Then they have a redemption and that their jackassery is saves them in the end from the gangsters. Yeah. Or at least through one of the set pieces. Going through the old town, you said.

T.C.:

Like, what were you suggesting that you

Jim:

I I didn't really I I just I had the set. I didn't have an idea for for what to do there. I think that were right aside from the whole, we're in this storefront. We gotta find those kids. Let's go over here.

Jim:

And now the kids sneak off to another place. And then back and forth, and you get the the the chase montage from Scooby Doo, right, where they're they're just running across a hallway of, like, from doorways they shouldn't be coming from.

T.C.:

To some, you know

Jim:

Yeah. That's the song.

T.C.:

Oh, we we should have a creepy carousel. Underground, middle seal, someone put in and I'm thinking more like Castle On The Hill or I'm sorry. House On The Hill in Wisconsin with all, like, the underground caves.

Jim:

Oh, yeah.

T.C.:

But having some

Jim:

sort On The Hill. Yeah. House On The Rock.

T.C.:

House On The Rock. Yeah.

Jim:

I was getting in my head for Wisconsin folks. I was mixing up House On The Rock and Holy Hill.

T.C.:

There we go. That's tight. Yes. Having a creepy carousel is a set piece as well, especially if the one kid thinks paranormal stuff's gonna keep happening and be like, I'm not going on that carousel. Sure.

T.C.:

I am not gonna get involved in that carousel. Carousels are creepy. I I I I yeah. Yeah. I am yep.

T.C.:

That could be a fun sequence.

Jim:

Yeah. And then the the gangsters are chasing him, and he's like, okay. And And he gets on the carousel, but it hasn't been turned on yet. And then the gangsters get on the carousel trying to find the kids. We gotta find those kids.

Jim:

And then someone finds a way, like like, plugs it in or something, and then it turns on, and then that's, oh, no. I said, like, what's going on?

T.C.:

There's a little creepy ghost girl over there. I swear to god, guys. Just a little just a little creepy carousel girl. I mean, yeah, this is dead air. Okay.

Jim:

No. No. You didn't like the idea. It's No. No.

Jim:

No. I'm I'm I'm wondering. So can we jam in a character who's there there's one of them has a little sister.

T.C.:

Oh, sure.

Jim:

So take away I I did we have a fourth character? Oh, one

T.C.:

I think

Jim:

we had a fourth character that that didn't make sense. Yeah. Just a like a little girl. One of the

T.C.:

kids on the one of the cast could be a little girl who if she puts her hair forward just looks like creepy Lily the ghost who's just looking up at them moving all weird. And she and she

Jim:

and she keeps doing it through the movie and everything. Stop

T.C.:

it. Stop doing this. Stop. You creepy creep. You're all going to come on.

T.C.:

What's with the British voice too? Come on, don't do that. Yeah. Little little creepy Lily the ghost girl. Freak him out on a carousel.

Jim:

And I think we need one more. Like, the piece? Yeah. The the The water slide. What what's the what's the French term for the the

T.C.:

The denouement?

Jim:

Yeah. No. That that's the the downward The. Yes. The.

Jim:

The piece did triumph. Yep.

T.C.:

The Arc De Triomphe. We need an Arc De Triomphe.

Jim:

We need a set piece that is our final set piece. Our our our our big what's our pirate

T.C.:

ship? Okay. It could be

Jim:

I imagine it is where the mine cart roller coaster leads to.

T.C.:

Okay. And it's and since we're dealing with gangster gold, what is maybe an old still if it's prohibition era. That's not really creepy enough. It would smell bad.

Jim:

So it's yeasty here. Is there

T.C.:

Smell of ish.

Jim:

Way to turn, like, an old mine with an old still, right, like like a whole bootlegging operation, turned it into this whole almost like not Rube Goldberg machine, but, like, once all of our eight main characters and then our three antagonists Mhmm. Are kinda running around in this thing. Like, oh, he jumps on this platform, and the gangster's about to grab him, but somebody else does the thing. So lever lifts, and they go, oh, they're out of reach. And then suddenly the gangster just, like, have have, like, the like, this big set where there's just a whole bunch of that between the still and the mine.

T.C.:

Yeah. Go straight up Rutt Goldberg's doubt. Like, it should be this is happening, then this happens, and then this and this.

Jim:

And and that that is somehow also where all the gold is hidden. Right. Yeah. We're we we make our moonshine here. Let's just keep all the gold here too.

T.C.:

Well, it's the perfect place to hide it so that no one can get to it.

Jim:

Yeah. If they find this, it's all over anyway.

T.C.:

Yeah. The okay. So, yeah, I think some sort of giant Rube Goldberg with, like, things flying through the air and hammers slamming down, and it's just a ridiculous Why

Jim:

are there hammers? That's how you make the mash. That's what mash is. Right?

T.C.:

Yeah. I went to all people on

Jim:

how to how to actually make their own

T.C.:

Make moonshine. Yeah. So, yeah, I think some ridiculous Rube Goldberg type contraption is fine, it's a nice callback to the original Goonies, had Rube Goldberg type devices on the pirate ship as well as in front of Mikey's house that Data had made to open up the gate. I'm assuming Data made it for him. Who else would be the inventor that made the Rube Goldberg device that opens the gate for Chunk after he does the truffle shuffle?

Jim:

I just think that's a thing that they do there in

T.C.:

the In the Goon Goon Docks. Yeah. That still feels weird saying.

Jim:

It does.

T.C.:

So what's what's the end game here? So the the bad guys get caught, but what what are they trying to accomplish in terms

Jim:

of Well, that's we don't have the reveal. Right? The big reveal is the kids were right all along, the adults were wrong. How do we how do we pull all of the goal how do we pull up the treasure to the surface where everyone can see what these kids have done?

T.C.:

Perhaps the the real treasure here is the archaeological find, the historical significance of the missing distillery and the mine cart and everything they found along the way in Old Sale or whatnot is enough has enough historical significance in the long run that's like, the gold, yeah, that's great. We would have made a lot of money off this, but all this is priceless. They can't tear this down anymore. They can't build the giant skyscraper here. You guys have literally found a priceless treasure, and so now the city can't build the ugly skyscraper and destroy all this land.

T.C.:

Something like that? It saves the it's no. Okay.

Jim:

I'm I you're you're right. It just that feels that feels tacked on cliche. So now we need to vilify the which which I suppose was the purpose in the original. Yeah. Like, oh, they're gonna buy us out.

T.C.:

They were evil land developers.

Jim:

Yeah. Okay. That's true. Because then through the movie, I just didn't care about that part. We're in caves and we're having adventures.

Jim:

And then Who cares about land developers? And then,

T.C.:

oh, we got we got oh my gosh. Oh, my dear. So we got the we got the oh, we got the jewels. You know? Don't sign.

T.C.:

No sign. I don't sign. The I guess when I was little, I used to think like, oh, they found all those jewels. Now they're all rich. Yeah.

T.C.:

But then as an adult comprehending the film, like, oh, no. They don't get to keep any of that. They just get to buy off buy all their land back. Yeah. Good for them.

T.C.:

So having the the land saved by the historical significance of what will essentially be a ghost amusement park under Seattle that they could

Jim:

Okay. So we build that in with uncle Mikey basically doing a little bit of ranting about how they're tearing down these these historic Yeah.

T.C.:

Things. Like, even the

Jim:

There's nothing Mikey, there's nothing there. You don't know that. There's

T.C.:

They they tore down the the caverns of 1 Eye Willie back home. Mhmm. It's gone. There's a mall there. Like, it's it's it's horrible.

T.C.:

They lost that significant piece of history.

Jim:

Do we wanna sorry. Just a a a a I mean, would that be a detail that would that would because the whole the whole idea of that first one was that they preserved it.

T.C.:

They preserved preserved their neighborhood. They did not preserve. I'm saying

Jim:

Oh. Oh, I see.

T.C.:

Because they had to go all the way to the shore to get underneath the cabin and then go on the adventure. Sure. So they saved Mikey saved his neighborhood, but the land would continue to develop all around it. And those historical historical places like One Eyed Willie's ship and the cave it was in, which would have historical significance, would have been steamrolled and and condos would have been built there. Sure.

T.C.:

So that could be his complaint. In the very beginning, all these places have historical significance and we're we're just tearing them down. There's plenty of land in this country that could be developed, but they're developing it here, and that's wrong. Mhmm. It was not necessarily wrong.

T.C.:

It's

Jim:

close to

T.C.:

it's close to the resources, so that's why cities are where they are, but that's beside the point.

Jim:

Okay.

T.C.:

Yeah.

Jim:

Yeah. Okay. That that works. I'm I'm okay with yeah. That We don't really have a grand reveal.

T.C.:

Well, I mean, the the big

Jim:

the big reveal. It's all on a really big elevator that pulls up.

T.C.:

When it rises up and then becomes the surface land, I No? No. Yes? No. I don't think that's

Jim:

what it would be. Oh, that's terrible.

T.C.:

They could blow up the still and it could tear the roof off the cave that they're in. It's like, hey, you did all the work for us. You created the foundation hole. We're gonna oh, no. There's a museum down there now.

T.C.:

Thanks, kids. You get a big explosion in the movie. Yeah. And explosions are

Jim:

good. Explosion. Everyone loves explosions.

T.C.:

Especially the pyromaniac kid who does the jackassery. Maybe Yes. It's my greatest explosion.

Jim:

Maybe we think too hard about it. Maybe they really do just, you know, tie up the gangsters and then get word to the surface. And

T.C.:

I I think blowing the place up is the way to go because they have to escape it and reveal it at the same time. If they if they escape the gangsters Okay.

Jim:

Place blows This whole trail leads to this thing which was right under the developers and everyone's proverbial nose this whole time.

T.C.:

Mhmm. And like, where they're So

Jim:

actually near the surface

T.C.:

Where they're gonna break ground.

Jim:

Sure. Right. Because that'd be the whole point.

T.C.:

Yeah. If it's if it where they were gonna develop, they didn't, like, excavate low enough, I guess, like, because that'd be some realistic question is, like, if this is really underneath where they're gonna develop, someone would have found it. Yeah. So if it's adjacent or deep enough that they wouldn't have excavated low enough to find it, I don't know. Maybe the place is lined in lead.

T.C.:

We're gonna blow it up. Okay. Yeah. So then they reveal and escape at the same Big explosion.

Jim:

You you have a whole there's a construction crew like, what's And going

T.C.:

it's

Jim:

like, woah. Oh my goodness. Like a gasmaid or something? What are these kids doing here?

T.C.:

Get out of here. There's fire. I've seen that kid on YouTube. He does pranks. This is fake.

T.C.:

Oh my gosh. Look. It's gangsters.

Jim:

Oh, yeah. And they're tied up. They're they're wearing their pinstripe suits, so we know they're gangsters.

T.C.:

Carrying bags with money symbols on them. Do we have a a sloth like character in this? Do we add another monster man?

Jim:

Oh, no. This is Well, I'd I'd propose Bigfoot. Not sure where to where to

T.C.:

put in Could there be a and that was kind of a bit of a Home Alone one and two scenario. Could there be, like, a homeless guy with, like, a really scraggly beard that could be mistaken for a creature? If you get, like, a six foot six, like, really thin rail thin, but, like, super beardy muddy man, it'd be like, Sasquatch. And then and then, you know, he kinda

Jim:

What if if there what if the lead there's a legend, which is where all this information came from, of some some old prospector. Yeah. So when they go down there, they, like, they keep referring to the the way it was one eyed Willie's treasure

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

This is old I I don't know. I

T.C.:

Prospector Pete. Yeah. Something like that.

Jim:

And they they go down there, and they keep seeing him. So that's more references to ghosts.

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

Right? They say they keep seeing his ghost, and then it turns out, no. It's a dude. It's a it's a homeless dude who's been living down there.

T.C.:

I live down here. I got your gangsters for you. He's Canadian.

Jim:

Yeah. Yeah.

T.C.:

That left him down in the hole there, and I got him out. I've been

Jim:

surviving on this very, very old whiskey.

T.C.:

It's delicious. You survived an old whiskey. She's terribly drunk.

Jim:

Drunk from the still.

T.C.:

Yeah. I know. I know. I think that's I think that's though what we've painted is pretty much just a it's no different. You'd set it off, Mike, the no different than the Ghostbusters reboot.

T.C.:

It's like enough of the same

Jim:

Yeah. It's it's it's hit all the hit all the the same beats.

T.C.:

The okay. So we we we boast at the beginning of this, at least I do when I do the introduction, that we are gonna attempt to create something better than what we would have gotten or did get. I guess that's somewhat of a guarantee, or a promise that we're offering our listeners. I think we've we've successfully, met the demands of Carly and her and Burrito Madness, her studio.

Jim:

I believe so.

T.C.:

And, but I don't think we've

Jim:

Contractually, we have we have succeeded, burrito madness. You owe

T.C.:

us. We'll we'll do Hercules. We'll do Aladdin, but gosh darn it, we wanna do Treasure Planet in the long run. So I think we've Carly, I think we've we've we've met your demands. I don't know if this is as inspired as some of the other ideas we've had, not to, like, toot our own horn.

T.C.:

I don't think I don't

Jim:

think this bad. Like like, I think between the two of us, we're not kinda jumping out of our own seats or Yeah. Or, like, hit hitting our high notes. Like, oh my god. And And then and whole guy who's talking about that.

Jim:

Yeah. I I I feel like we we should be. But Mhmm. So yeah. Continue.

T.C.:

Well, I was just gonna say I I don't know what more we can do to I don't know if this is a blockbuster. I don't know if this this feels like the type of studio met film that would be, why are you doing this?

Jim:

Sort of. It feels like a February release.

T.C.:

A a dump month release. Yeah. But at the same time, I I there is some fun to be had in adventure films of this type. Mhmm. But we just exist in an era now where you can have a bunch of kids go on adventures, but they need to fight a Demogorgon.

T.C.:

You can have a bunch of kid youths go on adventure, but they have to fight an alien from outer space. Right? What is the equivalent of this type of movie now? I don't know if there

Jim:

is one. It's Dora the Explorer.

T.C.:

But even that had, like, high concept set pieces, explosions, car chases, gunfights.

Jim:

Sure. And we can have well, we're we're proposing some of that as well. Mhmm.

T.C.:

Is this oh, okay. Let's I mean let's let's take a moment.

Jim:

Didn't discuss that too much. I mean, I I think we were approaching it more like the original Goonies where the the crooks are bumbling and and not doing like, right the Goonies in the Goonies, they had what? One gun?

T.C.:

Yeah. And they're fighting the whole time, arguing

Jim:

with each other.

T.C.:

I hate your hairpieces. I do not wear a hairpiece. The the okay. Let's let's take a step back here because I don't wanna give up. I don't wanna admit defeat here.

Jim:

Sure.

T.C.:

I think the closest equivalent of the of a Goonies style movie that we get now are the Toy Story films and Bug's Life and Up. Right? Those have a reality about them with some fantastical elements about it. But they're Toy Story is essentially real world. It's just a real world where toys can talk.

T.C.:

No one has magic. No one has laser beam eyes or anything like that. Get a relatively real world scenario being played out by toys. That's that is the the convention that they're using. See what I'm you you are you following my

Jim:

Sort of. I I Because they're animated and because the the initial conceit is is already pretty fantastical. They toys. Living toys, talking bugs.

T.C.:

But they go on action adventure. They go on adventure.

Jim:

They they the thing is they are the strangeness Mhmm. That you're coming to see. What is what is the strangeness here? Oh. Right?

Jim:

In the in the Goonies, it's I I I think the the theme, the the the whole idea is there is a world of of adventure and treasure Mhmm. Underneath your feet in your own home.

T.C.:

Like, in your own backyard. And it's not the it's not gonna be the explosions of films. It's not gonna be the there's not gonna be ghosts. There's not gonna be Well It's all up to your imagination. These kids then these kids, their imagination gets away from them, and that's why they see a homeless guy as a Sasquatch, and they're being chased by gangsters.

T.C.:

They are being chased by gangsters. If they're making it bigger than it is and we're along for the ride, ultimately, we should feel that same sort of whimsy and and and seeing these very imaginative kids experience very exciting things, and then we experience that

Jim:

maybe maybe I think you and I are just inundated too much with bombastic fiction.

T.C.:

We did we do Spider Man and we do, yeah, Die Hard, like, we're

Jim:

And and I'd right right. And I'd think about nothing but, like, D and D all day long. So dragons and and magic and

T.C.:

He had a mind flayer.

Jim:

Yeah. So

T.C.:

I

Jim:

think I think we made a a a good Goonies sequel.

T.C.:

Yeah. It would definitely come down to the cast.

Jim:

I'd I'd thus far, if I were to grade grade us

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

I I don't think this is an a.

T.C.:

No. We don't have a sure thing. This isn't a blockbuster. This does feel like a February release that it's missing something that would turn this into, oh my gosh. People have gotta see

Jim:

this movie. And maybe we're just not thinking about it big enough.

T.C.:

Mhmm. Well, I'm curious if there if people listening might have any ideas that we're missing here. What is there is there an x factor that we're not quite latching on to? I was just saying that I think that the cast could play a huge part in this if

Jim:

Oh, sure.

T.C.:

Because that original cast of characters, Mike, Sean Astin, Corey Feldman, and and Josh Brolin, like, those are very talented young actors, and they and they are very charismatic on the screen. It's like we joked about earlier. Kids can act. So I think having the right nobodies in this okay. If if I'm being asked, like, the one of the kids you could cast in this, in fact, two of the kids you three of the kids you could cast in this would be straight out of the new Fuller House.

T.C.:

The the three main the three kids in the Fuller House cast are just the right age for what these characters would need to be. They have the ability to portray

Jim:

I will I will believe you.

T.C.:

Yeah. No. I know you've seen it. What's the you got the tattoo on your arm.

Jim:

Do not look at my tattoos.

T.C.:

Sorry. Sorry. Okay. I won't tell anyone. You're lucky this is audio or people will see that you have the full cast of Fuller House tattooed to your

Jim:

arm. I know right there. Right? I made sure to get them as close as I had I actually had them do redo it three times.

T.C.:

That's amazing. So should I delete this out so people don't know?

Jim:

No. No. They shouldn't. I'm quite proud. Just no one gets to look at it.

T.C.:

I okay. So the cast casting the right kids.

Jim:

I think we're we are I think we're also thinking about the set pieces we just spent a while putting together and the way those action sequences will be filmed and and portrayed and stuff. I think we're actually even thinking of our own scenes too small. They're I they're gonna be bigger. Like, as we as this script would be fleshed out, as the production would be built, these are gonna be bigger and and more bombastic. Right?

Jim:

We have a mine cart roller coaster chase scene.

T.C.:

Pretty cool.

Jim:

Yeah. We're we're gonna have A giant Rube Goldberg Yeah.

T.C.:

30 act set piece.

Jim:

We we I I think we have these things in I think the action and and I I mentioned it earlier. I think the the movies to compare the action scenes to are the Pirates of the Caribbean action scenes. Because those movies do have supernatural elements Mhmm. But the scenes I'm thinking of don't involve those. It's just sword fights with weird stuff going on.

Jim:

Like, oh, look. They're on a rolling water wheel as they're they're sword fighting. Yeah. We don't have that in this movie, but sorta like that that size situation happening. We have

T.C.:

So getting someone like Gore Verbinski on this. Like, even, you know, I think Touchstone or Amblin, who the original Goonies is is it's a Amblin. It's one of the major major studio. Bless you. Having having Gore Verbinski involved in this, like, saying, like, hey, you know

Jim:

Sure.

T.C.:

You did the Pirates of the Air Bean. Age it down a bit. Mhmm. But think, like, Rango is an animated film he did that has a lot of adventure to it quality to it as well. I think that getting the right director in this could could give us a the big bombastic Mhmm.

T.C.:

To use your word, set pieces. Having having the right cast of characters, having the right gangsters, like, I'd for some reason, I keep imagining Timothy Olyphant as one of the the bad guys. I don't know. It's because he's he's so funny in Santa Clarita Diet. He's such a, intimidating guy when he needs to be.

T.C.:

He he can play the gamut of of of character types.

Jim:

Actually, yeah. I I haven't seen Santa Clarita today, but I can see I can see him playing the

T.C.:

More aggressive one.

Jim:

I I really like the the red nose white face dichotomy being a white face comedic villain where where he's like, he's very serious serious. But these slapstick things keep happening. And he's like, he's the type type guy. And and and, like, to the point that, like, oh, saying that it would happen, but the equivalent of, like, a pie in the face and then all of his his goons around him, like, they become petrified because, oh god. How is he react?

T.C.:

Gonna be so mad. Yeah. And you know what? I'm just just because we've used him before to great effect and casting him in something that needs, like, that right amount of energy Mhmm. Having Timothy Olyphant next to Ziz Ansari chasing these kids.

T.C.:

Right? Like, it's like having him being like, oh, man. Did you see that thing? That was crazy. I'm just trying to go, oh, man.

T.C.:

You're pissed.

Jim:

Like Actually, I also really like the idea of Aziz Ansari as a gangster. Like like, he's trying he's trying to rise up the ranks in

T.C.:

the mob. He's Italian at his his uncle's side. Yeah. Like, I one of one of the like, there's a there's a

Jim:

Oh, and he he would be the perfect one for for when they they start breaking and thinking, oh, maybe that kid who's talking about ghosts, maybe he's onto something. Maybe there really are ghosts down here. There's no such thing as ghosts. Yeah. But maybe they're and then they see the old the the homeless guy, and they're like, god.

Jim:

It's the ghost.

T.C.:

It's the ghost. I told you. I told you. So it's like The

Jim:

kid was right. The kid was right.

T.C.:

The I think that would do it. Now we're now we're the it's getting those characters in there to getting the actors in there adds an element there that already is making me giggle at the prospects of this film. I just wanna point out the original Goonies here. It's directed by Richard Donner. It was written by Chris Columbus, who

Jim:

wrote Harry

T.C.:

Potter, directed Harry Potter. It was produced by Steven Spielberg. That's that's that's an amazing trio of people involved in, like, making this classic film. It's why it stands up having those three involved.

Jim:

Absolutely.

T.C.:

So getting someone like Gore Verbinski who has an experience with crazy set pieces, adventure filmmaking, Rube Goldberg type scenarios, that's the sort of director that would that would kick this thing in the butt, that would make it that much more exciting to see. Yeah. You know, it's interesting. You know, this kinda this is about the everything we do here on the podcast as a whole. We approach this very much from a writing perspective, I think, first and foremost, as we're trying to meet the studio's demands.

T.C.:

And then we discuss we do discuss, direction and casting and all that. Right? But this is one of the occasions where I think the screenplay could be what it is. Like, we we we basically plotted out what the movie could be. That's fine.

T.C.:

But getting the right cast in there and then putting it in the hands of a director with vision like like Gore Verbinski, that's what amped this up suddenly. To think about him directing it like the Pirates of the Caribbean movies, that's that's that's an interesting angle that we haven't necessarily delved in too much in

Jim:

Yeah.

T.C.:

In the episodes we've done, saying having Edgar write

Jim:

Early on early on, I I I know in the early episodes. Well, Edgar right on camera. In. We're but, like, I I yeah. We we did talk about it in in Yeah.

Jim:

The first few.

T.C.:

Yeah. Cool. Yeah. That that that that suddenly I'm a little more energized by the possibilities of this film just sticking in in the hands of, like, Timothy Olyphant and his his on Sorry Against Against Kids and and putting it in that director's hand. Yeah.

T.C.:

Cool. Any other thoughts on on this?

Jim:

Not currently. Not not unless you wanna come up with with who else what, like, what other gangsters are in the squad and

T.C.:

We

Jim:

have five more people. Jokes would there would there be? Otherwise, I I think the only other thing would be we I I feel like we we skimmed pretty lightly on the Goonies cameos. Like, I don't that that's the thing, sort of the scenario of the original Goonies and thus this one. There's really nowhere to put them in in the middle unless we have this subplot of the parents noticing their kids are gone, and so something we keep touching back on is them trying to find them, trying to catch up.

Jim:

So that way when the explosion happens, maybe they're already at the edge of the the construction zone.

T.C.:

Right.

Jim:

They're waiting.

T.C.:

Well, okay. Let's let's yeah. Let's let's talk about that real quick. I think Actually,

Jim:

now that I say that, actually, I I like that. So that that sort of it at least reunites Sean Astin, Josh Brolin Mhmm. As they're looking for their kids. I don't know how or why they would recruit the others.

T.C.:

Well, I I think those three if we

Jim:

go their kids are involved.

T.C.:

Just those two, we actually have more of a character story with them. If Cameo's from Data and Mouth and

Jim:

Chunk.

T.C.:

So I think Mouth being

Jim:

The the the mom. Oh, Andy.

T.C.:

Yeah. She would be with Josh Josh Brolin. Yeah. Having Mouth be a a Joe Rogan podcast YouTuber podcast thing, like, in the background of when the opening scenes are taking place. Having Data be some tech dude that maybe at some point, Mikey does try to contact Data and be like, hey.

T.C.:

Can you use your your poll in the tech world to stop this development from from happening? Maybe something like that.

Jim:

Sure.

T.C.:

But as far as, like, getting to the final location so that Sean Astin and Josh Brolin can get there, if Mikey realizes the kids are missing or or he's the one that's like, where are the kids? Where are the kids? And Josh Brolin's like he comes in later and like, what do you mean where are the kids? Oh, they're missing and this and I don't know. Didn't leave any clues.

T.C.:

And Josh Brolin just takes out his phone. He's like, does it find my phone for his stupid kid? He's like, yeah. They're downtown. What?

T.C.:

Oh, come on. Let's go. And that's how they get there. Like Okay. If and and and that sort of if they don't have cell phones going through it or maybe they do, they just don't utilize them to call for help.

T.C.:

Or having just that that one moment where the phone gets washed away and and makes its way out of the caves on through a freaking drainpipe or something.

Jim:

Well, it'd basically be eight phones. Actually, that that, I think, from a writing standpoint, I think that would be fun is is how do you Just keep incapacitate eight phones.

T.C.:

Oh, man.

Jim:

Although, being underground, it really does block a lot of signals.

T.C.:

Yeah. Yeah.

Jim:

Well, see, I was thinking it could be a little more adventuresome. It could it could be right. Like, Mikey almost becomes invigorated by the notion of this adventure. Mhmm. Like, because he's gonna figure out or know that they've followed this clue.

Jim:

Like, ah, they're on an adventure. And Josh Brolin is like, you are in so irresponsible. You are so irresponsible.

T.C.:

I can't believe this is happening again.

Jim:

And and so, like, they're just they're on the surface and being like, well, if that leads here and, like, they have, like, blueprints and, like, that leads over it.

T.C.:

They're looking at it above ground and go, we're not going down. We're gonna follow the path this way. Mhmm. That's that's pretty smart. And then they just get to the final location.

T.C.:

Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. Cutting back to them occasionally figuring out is Yeah.

T.C.:

Great. Because you could even do a couple of effects where, like, well, if you follow this, like, they're pointing at the table and they're pointing at a section and then zooming into the map and doing another cross dissolve into the cave.

Jim:

Oh, sure. Yeah.

T.C.:

Yeah. That's a fun transitional kind of it's a little bit throwback. You don't necessarily see that sort of transitioning happening in more contemporary films

Jim:

Mhmm.

T.C.:

That could feel a bit throwback in its in its quality. Yeah. That that's a cool idea. Like, giving giving them a a b plot that we don't see a lot of, but that's good. I like that.

T.C.:

Yeah. Cool. Well, I I I think we've we've

Jim:

Yeah.

T.C.:

Kind of exhausted

Jim:

no longer February. This is now mid to late spring.

T.C.:

Maybe April, like, just before the the summer blockbuster season. Or just after. Just, like, August. Yeah. August 2.

T.C.:

Okay. Cool. Well, I'm interested okay. So Carly, from Burrito Manus Studios, I hope that we we did find a way to achieve what you were hoping for in terms of The Goonies two.

Jim:

And I

T.C.:

know we have, more than a few listeners who are gonna be on board for at least hearing us conceptualize these ideas, and I'm curious to hear what you I'm curious about a lot of things. That's the word of the day. Every time I say it, take a shot. What do you guys think?

Jim:

Yeah. Actually, this one I I you're I'm sorry to interrupt your your thing. So you actually do this at the end of, like, all the episodes. Mhmm. For most of them, usually, I'm just sitting over here thinking, yeah.

Jim:

We did a pretty good job. You're gonna say stuff, they'll be interesting, but

T.C.:

we

Jim:

did pretty good here. Yeah. This one, actually, I really I really am super curious to know what others think, like, what other ideas there are.

T.C.:

What

Jim:

did we miss?

T.C.:

What worked? What didn't?

Jim:

Yeah. Yeah. I I'm super curious about this one.

T.C.:

Cool. And you can tweet at us at t c's big head for me.

Jim:

And Tupac Wack at Tupac Wackson. For Jen

T.C.:

there, or you can get us at Studio Demands It on Twitter and Instagram. You can also go over to studiodemandsit.com if you wanna submit a Studio Demand yourself. Thank you for this one. This one was a challenge Mhmm. Especially coming off of last episode where we were just we blew out, like, six, seven ideas for Spider Man movies to come to something that's that's a much more contained you you didn't give us a lot of demands, so we, you know, we we really stretched our stretched ourself on this one.

T.C.:

And I I I joined the

Jim:

challenge. No stipulations.

T.C.:

Yeah. So so hit us up with your thoughts, with your concerns and questions and ideas. We wanna hear them all. That's fantastic. So big shout out to Six Five Media for giving us this platform.

T.C.:

Check out everything Six Five has to offer like the another Zelda podcast, which

Jim:

is good

T.C.:

stuff, Maynard. But, yeah, that that does it. Anything else you wanna wanna say there, Jim?

Jim:

Goonies never die.

T.C.:

Goonies never say die. Or they just don't die.

Jim:

They just don't die.

T.C.:

Yeah. Woah. It's the because so they're searching for the Goonies three, found a few, and I'm with you. Alright. Cool, everybody.

T.C.:

That's it for this episode. We'll see you next time with another man. I'm T.C. I'm Jim. And that's it.

Jim:

Cute little guy messed up. You you threw it up there. You set it up for me, and I I missed another one.

T.C.:

It's alright.

Jim:

It's alright. Jingle Heiberschmidt.