Hello, and welcome to the studio. Demands it an exercise in creative thinking where we will challenge ourselves to conceptualize, pitch, and craft a film based on the stipulations of a hypothetical Hollywood overlord. I am TCB Witten. Joining me as always is my cohost, Jim. I don't have a middle name for you this time.
T.C.:Berzelik. Hello, Jim. Hello. So what are we doing here if this is your first episode? We talk movies all the time, and in particular, we complain about the choices of certain blockbusters and franchises.
T.C.:And, of course, as any good cinephile does, we just automatically assume we could do better. I'm a filmmaker.
Jim:I'm a filmmaker.
T.C.:That's right. And, so we are not coming from nowhere on this and without, we are not without our experiences and and of course our opinions. So how are doing, Jim?
Jim:I'm doing good. Yeah. Feeling feeling well.
T.C.:Feeling good. Feeling you got your go juice over here. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm good too.
T.C.:Thanks for not asking. So back for another episode. I I felt like we continued to talk last week Yep. About, the dark universe. Yes.
T.C.:So, I had a lot of fun with that. I I thank you for for stipulate or like throwing that out there or studio to me. And it was funny because I know you were a little nervous following up Die Hard success that you're like, dark universe. So but today, I get to pick.
Jim:You do?
T.C.:I do get to pick. So but but you're you're doing well. Yeah. I am. I
Jim:am. Been I've been living clean, living healthy.
T.C.:Mhmm. Mhmm. Clean living. That's how you do it. That's And the beard's longer.
Jim:Yep. That's what time does.
T.C.:Get the get the beard on the mic for everyone. Yeah. They can hear it.
Jim:That's good.
T.C.:Alright. So so are we gonna do here? I'm gonna throw out a studio demand here. Okay?
Jim:Alright.
T.C.:We're gonna travel back in time, Jim. We're just gonna go back near a decade ago. Oh. Alright. A studio made a demand.
T.C.:And maybe maybe the studio didn't demand it, but there was definitely some vanity involved that said this needs to happen. Right? Okay. Yeah. And this was asked of the studio, and they made some stipulations.
Jim:Alright.
T.C.:And we got what we got. And I wanna go back to 2010 and see if we can give the studio what they were demanding. Sure. But make a better movie. Sure.
T.C.:Alright?
Jim:We can.
T.C.:Ladies and gentlemen, the studio demands The Expendables. Oh. Now for those of you who might not remember, The Expendables stars a bunch of eighties action heroes such as Sylvester Stallone. Who's the villain in the first one? Eric Robertson was even the first bad guy.
T.C.:Yep. We have Jason Statham. Schwarzenegger made an appearance. Bruce Willis made an appearance. Dolph Lundgren's one of the original Expendables.
T.C.:Yep. And it was in its concept, we're bringing all the old school action heroes together Yeah. And giving us the action movie we've all been waiting for our whole damn lives. Yep. And what we got was not quite that.
Jim:Not quite.
T.C.:I I think of the three that went on to exist with whatever they decided to do with it after the fact, that first one was close Mhmm. But also not great. Yeah. But the the studio demands that The Expendables comes into existence with the star power that exists, playing with the eighties action hero, bringing it back into the February, into the the late the mid two thousands. So Jim, give me the expendables.
Jim:Okay. Oh gosh. Arms crossed. I've definitely I've definitely thought about this before.
T.C.:We may have even talked about this before. So
Jim:to me, the biggest miss of it, and I understand why they missed it. Mhmm. Mhmm. So so it's it's gonna be a matter of convincing a whole bunch of pretty big personalities.
T.C.:Yeah. I mean, the notorious egos of these eighties action stars, like, who think they're, at this point, so washed out. They're not as good as they used to be. Right?
Jim:And and they don't necessarily know that or
T.C.:think that. Refuse to believe it. These are the these are some of the biggest egos in Hollywood.
Jim:Yeah. I I don't like that the name expendables was used kind of ironically because no one died.
T.C.:Yeah. Did they didn't
Jim:Maybe did one person die? Eric Rathers died. Yeah. They they weren't expendable. Mhmm.
T.C.:And
Jim:and granted that it came out it came out in the plot. It was, oh, we're gonna send you to do this thing and then we don't care if you live. In fact, we kinda want you to die. But then they didn't die because they're the heroes. Mhmm.
Jim:And that's, I think, how they were supposed to be ex quote unquote expendable. I liked that that was the name, like the in world name of the mercenary group, they called themselves the expendables. But I think they should have allowed there to be a little more expendability. It would have given us actual stakes, which there didn't really feel like there were any.
T.C.:Yeah. It it it really felt like a is is there more definition of a vanity project than this film? Like
Jim:Yes.
T.C.:None of these guys are as cool as they think they are. Yes. There are more vanity projects.
Jim:One in particular.
T.C.:Which one?
Jim:Might be kinda rude.
T.C.:No. Go ahead.
Jim:Yoga hosers.
T.C.:Yoga. I
Jim:can't I can't think of one. I I actually oh, I don't even remember that there there's a guy who lives in Vegas who makes his own movies, and he's the star. That's super b movie. But That's it what can be named. Yeah.
Jim:Expendables is it's pretty much up there of, hey. Remember us.
T.C.:Look how cool we are still. Look how great we are still. Like, there's just too they hell,
Jim:if anything, there should have been callbacks to all of their movies.
T.C.:Yes. Okay. So this this is where I wanna go down to in this avenue. Now I think you are spot on that you can't call these guys the expendables and not kill them. Yeah.
T.C.:Okay? And and now here's my pitch to you. This may sound familiar because I we have now that I'm remembering, we have talked
Jim:about this. Talk about this? Okay.
T.C.:This is fine. This is my pitch to you in terms of how we do this. Okay. What you're asking for. These guys are expendables.
T.C.:We gotta kill some of these sons of bitches. Yeah. Oh, but their egos, how do you do this? Yeah. You didn't see Machete Lives, the second Machete movie, did you?
Jim:I did not.
T.C.:You know how Machete Lives begins?
Jim:How does it begin?
T.C.:They show a trailer for Machete three. So this is how the Expendables begins. You open with a with a fake trailer or maybe the real trailer for Expendables two.
Jim:Okay.
T.C.:Okay? And then you play Expendables one, and all these, they're dying. We're killing them. Oh. Because the Expendables is going to be an anthology series, not
Jim:It's not about the continuing story of these individuals.
T.C.:No. It is not.
Jim:I I think this this studio
T.C.:Mhmm.
Jim:Is just shoveling money at you. Because wants to hear nothing else.
T.C.:Yeah. It's done. Yeah. It's done. Thanks for listening everybody.
T.C.:Let's do the social stuff so you can find do you have any Instagram? Here's the thing. You can if we go anthology style on this, right, and we kill these sons of bitches Mhmm. Expendable. Make them expelled.
T.C.:Next movie comes along, whole new story. They even have different character names. We go American Horror Story style in here. Salome can be the bad guy in the second one. Yeah.
T.C.:The only time he's ever played the bad guy is in Death Race, and he has a hell of a good time in that movie. Right? Yeah. And you're right. Do callbacks and not just the, I'll be back.
T.C.:No. No. You're always coming back. I'm coming back this time. That's not funny.
T.C.:You can do better than that. Right?
Jim:Do entire scenes. Right? Like like, I'd now now I now I can only think of bad examples. But
T.C.:If it bleeds, we can kill it. Like, give me the Yeah. I'm not saying they go up against a predator. I think we keep this grounded.
Jim:In in one of them, they could go against some sort of space alien.
T.C.:I'm going
Jim:Right? Because it's anthology. Yeah.
T.C.:But why not? Yeah. I mean, you had the predator. You had alien. Like, let's go to all the classic eighties tropes here, but specifically this first one.
Jim:Oh. Oh, God. And then if you're if you're because you're now allowing people to die Yeah. In these, you can start not only homaging all of those original movies. Mhmm.
Jim:You can even lampoon them to some degree. And you you can you can lean on all of these different things available to you. Jokes and and like real I can't think of the word. Just just homage. I'll just repeat myself.
T.C.:Oh, yeah. Having having an arm get blown off and be like, holy shit, dude. You just lost your arm. Yeah. I got time to bleed.
T.C.:No. You're literally bleeding to death right now. Like, I have this first one of the team on a mission. Use the same plot of the first examples. That's fine.
T.C.:I I Eric Roberts can be the bad guy. Stallone can be Mhmm. The leader of this team, but we need to lean into this. I want hard r. I want all the eighties tropes.
T.C.:I want these guys dropping dead. Like, have them go down guns ablaze at
Jim:Of course. Of course.
T.C.:Yeah. Lock them in a room with if you think I love the movie Serenity, the Firefly film Mhmm. Where they are, like, trapped. They're they're dead. They're sitting in that hallway.
T.C.:Death is coming for them, and they're gonna go down fighting. Give me that. Let's see these guys kick the holy ass out of bad guys and then go down fighting and and win in the end at the expense of their lives.
Jim:Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Jim:Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. Affirmative. Go.
T.C.:So so, you know, in sticking with the the continue the studios saying, no. Stallone has to be in this. Okay. So what do you do specifically with Stallone? Which version of Stallone do we got here?
T.C.:Is this Rambo? Do we give him, like, he's mentally messed up crazy man leading this team? Or do you go, was it Commando? Wait. No.
T.C.:That's
Jim:No. That was sports night.
T.C.:Yeah.
Jim:You got Rambo. Rambo. You have Cobra. Cobra.
T.C.:That's one I was thinking of. Yeah.
Jim:Cobra. I I just I love the axe murderer cult gang in that movie.
T.C.:Is that the one with the clan? No. I'm thinking so that's that's fine. Like, do which I think that these characters didn't embody enough of their old school personas.
Jim:Sure. Because they all invented new characters
T.C.:Yeah.
Jim:For this. Like
T.C.:I'm saying they should
Jim:play Like like Dolph Dolph Lundgren, he's he's good. He's good at what he does. And and he did a good job with what he was given, which was was was he a was he a junkie? Was he was he an addict?
T.C.:Yeah. Was a traitor too in the
Jim:first place.
T.C.:He's a traitor. He's my favorite.
Jim:Strangely, they forgave? Yeah. Like, ah, you you you turned on us, buddy.
T.C.:So you won't have to worry about that inconsistency if we kill him and then bring him back in the next one. He's wearing glasses like, oh, I'm an astrophysicist, which he is in real life. Like, the original cast here, so the top top three builds, you got Stallone, Statham, and Lundgren. Okay? Mhmm.
T.C.:And and then, Jet Li's in here, Terry Crews, and then, you know, Randy Kertur and, Mickey Rourke, Stone Cold Steve Austin, blah blah
Jim:blah. Yeah.
T.C.:Like, looking specifically at Stallone, Statham, Lundgren, Cruz, and Jet Li. Like, those five, and Eric Roberts being the bad guy. Like, lean into specifically Statham. Oh, yeah. Lean into freaking Statham.
T.C.:He's the transporter. Now I know he's not an eighties action star. I love Statham like that guy.
Jim:Oh, he's yeah. He's Who
T.C.:he is and does it better than practically anyone. Mhmm. He's the best he is at what he does. But make him a freaking transporter. Get him a car chase in this movie.
T.C.:Sure. Hey. Who's hey. I'll drive. Like, give me that line.
T.C.:Like, get him in the car. And then having the other two hanging out for dear goddamn life as he's just tearing ass across France or whatever.
Jim:Yeah.
T.C.:Have have
Jim:Well, if I remember right, they had a plane.
T.C.:Mhmm. They did. Yes. And
Jim:talk talking about how how basically we're gonna blow everything up here Mhmm. That that needs to be your your final scene, maybe. Right? What what do you think about, like, like crashing the plane into Eric Roberts?
T.C.:We're going full, ladies. Oh, Yeah.
Jim:Like, hell, it could it could even be where where it's like like, literally, he's shooting his gun at now granted, isn't that the reverse of the Rambo scene where he was shooting
T.C.:The helicopter.
Jim:Yeah. That you're shooting through. So instead now, Stallone is in the plane flying it at Eric Roberts who's shooting up at him.
T.C.:Yeah. And I'm not saying this needs to be, like, the cheeky one liner, like, goofiness we get from, like, some of the some like, the Fast and the Furious franchise. I'm not asking for that. I'm I don't mind the quippy one liners classic eighties movies here. Yeah.
T.C.:Like, they lean into that. I Oh, yeah. They were so self indulgent in these movies, and they're having such a good time. This is the meathead version. The what we got
Jim:Yeah.
T.C.:Is the meathead version of Ocean's 12. Yeah. Not even Oceans 11 because Oceans 11 is a fairy It
Jim:it was done well.
T.C.:That's a tight film. Yeah. Oceans twelve and thirteen are like, look at how much fun we're having, you smarmy sons of bitches. Yeah. And this was the meathead version of that.
T.C.:We're like, they're all the coolest guys and, like, they're not leaning in to to the fact that they are washed up old eighties action stars. Like, just go for it. Recreate. You know, and and they kinda did. Right?
T.C.:Like, if you look at the second one, third one was like, I'll be back and Bruce Willis is lazily saying, oh, you're always coming back. Like, Chuck Norris shows up and does the thumbs up. Like, how do we do that and not suck is what the problem is? Because I think these movies are terrible and they could be so much better.
Jim:I I well, I think
T.C.:No CG blood. That's another I know this is the studio, I'm demanding as much practical effects as possible. Don't wanna see the Oh, sure.
Jim:Well, and and that's the thing. Like like, the the the most fun moments of The Expendables are when it's the big action scene.
T.C.:Mhmm.
Jim:Right? When they're actually doing so, like like the scene, I remember I remember the audience cheering when Terry Crews finally got that was it a was it a machine grenade launcher
T.C.:Yes.
Jim:Gun? And he just started unloading and exploding like the whole castle. Mhmm. Just more more scenes like that. Like, I I I I think that's that's sort of the key.
Jim:I I think Expendables spent too much time trying to build these characters with with lives and like, oh, we care about what's happening here and you know, there's families or something and I got problems. I got bills to pay and is No. No. No. Have that fine.
Jim:Have that be one liner. Man, I got a family. Well, I got bills to pay. Let's shoot some guns now.
T.C.:Hey. I just proposed to my girl. Like, let's get in all the old school acting cliches here. It's like, yeah. When I get out of this, this is my this is my last day.
T.C.:Like, this is my last mission. Like, oh, you're dead. Yeah. Just proposed to my girl. Yeah.
T.C.:You're dead. Yeah. Like, let's just have okay.
Jim:Hell hell, if anything, I would want a scene in the beginning where that gets lampshaded. They all get together for the mission.
T.C.:They have the beer
Jim:and drink it. Not even that. Like like, they're loaded they're loaded on the plane. I I actually I really like that. They're on the plane.
Jim:They drink the beer on the plane to the mission. And while they're talking and trying to catch up, like someone says like, this is my last one. I'm out after this. Mhmm. And they all they all like point, go, oh.
Jim:And like like someone says, you never say that man. And and they so they they talk about stuff like that. Have have them have them actively acknowledge the just you just signed your death warrant. Yeah. Because you said that.
T.C.:Don't you know how these things go?
Jim:We don't talk we don't talk about
T.C.:that
Jim:stuff, Let that
T.C.:guy survive in the end. Let him be the is it Steve Buscemi in
Jim:Reservoir Dogs?
T.C.:No. No. No. Because Armageddon Apparently,
Jim:he didn't die.
T.C.:He's either one that goes crazy, but
Jim:Well, Armageddon Whatever. A number of people survive. He does he does go crazy in arm in Armageddon. Okay. He climbs up on top of their asteroid rover
T.C.:Mhmm.
Jim:And starts shooting the minigun that they put on there because cool. Cool.
T.C.:Michael Bay.
Jim:But he also survives in Con Air.
T.C.:That's the one I was thinking of. Okay. Yeah. Sorry. The here's another thing.
T.C.:The studio demands this existing. How do we resolve this?
Jim:On Conair. Oh, jeez. That's a lot of the mood. Yeah. That's the mood that that most obviously, they're they're good guys.
Jim:They're not a convict monsters.
T.C.:Expendables are good guys. Con Air, they're monsters.
Jim:Yeah. But that that should be like the only difference. Con Air's full of it's it's a plane full of badass dudes who are who end up dying, but in cool ways. Yeah. Right?
Jim:Like, that's what
T.C.:this needs be.
Jim:Let's fly this plane of badass cool dudes to this island with a bunch of badass bad guys that they gotta that they gotta fight. Hell, have you have you played have you played the video game oh, crap. Now I forgot the name of it.
T.C.:No. I don't like I can't answer yes or no
Jim:then at this point. Crap. Bro Force. Yes. Basically, this needs to be This is Bro Force the movie is what this needs to be.
T.C.:Absolutely. Like this it it could have been so much more fun. But again, comparing it to the Oceans movies, they were just having too much fun themselves without considering like, hey, we have to sit and watch this. Mhmm. Can you please make this for us as well?
T.C.:Like, we want to see you play replay your greatest hits. You're a you're a this this is what this is a greatest hits tour, and you were playing the b sides. Yeah. I don't care about your freaking b side love song. Right?
T.C.:Give me Rosanna. Give me Africa. Okay? I didn't come here to hear track 13. Okay?
T.C.:Look. Here's another thing. Let's resolve this because I'm not sure if this was a studio demand or the fact of who made this.
Jim:Sure. Well, in in one for with this movie, it's a little bit of the it's
T.C.:both. Okay.
Jim:The studio is the are the people demanding this vanity project. And the audience, us, when we heard this idea, it was snakes on a plane awesome. Yes. And in the end, it didn't quite deliver what the imagination brought to mind.
T.C.:It was snakes on a plane. Yeah. It was snake on a plane in concept awesome, and then it was snakes on a plane bad in execution.
Jim:Yes.
T.C.:Here's the thing. Is is it a studio demand that Stallone directs this? Because he wrote it and directed it. And he wrote it with someone, and he directed it himself. Because I would say an easy way to make this a much better movie is to get in the hands of someone like Gareth Evans who did The Raid Redemption and get a true modern day action director.
T.C.:Or you know what? Fuck. Screw that. John McTiernan is still alive, and he directed two arguably two of the greatest action movies of all time, Die Hard and Predator. Yeah.
T.C.:Why is he not working right now? He should be directing these things.
Jim:Yeah. Actually, that would be that would be perfect. Right? Because predator was exactly that. A bunch of big, muscly badasses Yeah.
Jim:In the jungle. The first quarter of the movie Mhmm. Third of the movie, something like that is them literally doing what we're describing right now. Yeah. Like, it's shooting grenades everywhere.
Jim:Like, literally shooting grenades, shooting guns everywhere. That that movie invented the minigun as as we know it. Like, the the handheld minigun. Yeah. It has the lines, you're bleeding.
Jim:I ain't got time to bleed.
T.C.:Dude, predator is and then you got Die Hard. Like, does it dude, I'm I'm saying this. If we're gonna anthologize the expendables franchise Yeah. I'm we do not need to go into detail on this. Okay?
T.C.:I don't wanna go off on a tangent what this could be. But I'm telling you, expendables three or four or five is the Predator. It's the Predator versus Stallone and Statham
Jim:and just
T.C.:do it all What I would do,
Jim:I wouldn't I wouldn't necessarily I that that's that's not a bad idea. I would personally rather see I don't knock off monsters. I don't wanna see him fight the I wanna see him fight space aliens. Have it be a sci fi. We we do The Expendables one is is this, right?
Jim:It's the the the modern the modern ops style movie. Okay. Whether it's two or three or whatever, one of them is a sci fi and they have to go to another planet or whatever, and there's
T.C.:Oh, running man. Doing Running man.
Jim:A whole bunch of aliens.
T.C.:Running man, send them off like if you go Do
Jim:do a plot where they're prisoners?
T.C.:They're all captured and they gotta bust out.
Jim:Oh, like a like a foreign oh, that's not bad. I was gonna think like a foreign legion thing where they're conscripted. They're prisoners who are conscripted to go fight some some crazy aliens or something.
T.C.:Oh, okay. I see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
T.C.:I was thinking more of just like, okay. We do both. Yeah. Dude, actually, I'll go one step further. Your freaking preview for the next one that opens the movie Yeah.
T.C.:Is a nonexistent film. Sure. So you could do The Expendables Meet the Predator as your fake trailer. And so people are like, holy shit, I want this movie. And then they don't actually ever get Expendables versus Predator.
T.C.:But you do get I like that cons they're conscripted into sorry.
Jim:I could I could come up with like we could we could do this all day. Essentially, if if you really wanted you could just have them visit each other's movies, essentially. Kinda actually like you were saying with the predator, like it's predator versus them, so it's like they're all in the predator movies, so then you could have them go, like, most of these guys haven't done like a fantasy movie of sorts.
T.C.:Oh my
Jim:But put them all in like in like a Conan a Conan esque movie. What I what I would is you do like some sort of Viking esque movie.
T.C.:Oh, man. All these just middle aged to later life old muscle bound meat head dudes just just Viking. Yes. And then, you know, what was it? It's Jim Caviezel.
T.C.:He plays a it's Vikings, but he's a spaceman from the that crash lands on Earth.
Jim:I don't even know this one.
T.C.:Oh, man. It's a it's a it was a limited release straight to DVD Red Box, whatever. I'll look it up later. But Yeah. The Expendables as it is, as this vanity project that's continuing, you it's three movies now, is just forget it.
T.C.:Like, I don't I don't care as and I Die Hard, one of the greatest movies of all time. Predator, one of the greatest movies of all time. Not even great action movie. Like, just in my favorite movies of all time. Oh, yeah.
T.C.:And the genre definers that they are. Yeah. And I don't think Expendables does what they thought it was is not what we got. And I think the way to resolve that is to oh, we'll get look, studio. We'll give you the the return of these eighties heroes all teamed up.
Jim:Oh, yeah.
T.C.:We're giving you that, but let's make it better. Mhmm. Right? And I think we're we've just talking just one, the idea of the fact that we get to kill these guys. We've already franchised it.
Jim:That that that's genius.
T.C.:That's Oh, you've already threw the money at me. That's right.
Jim:Well, and and initially, I was just thinking some of them die because then we go but no. Your idea of anthologizing it, so in the You don't
T.C.:know who's gonna live or die now.
Jim:Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. That's oh. That's because,
T.C.:like, in the in the, like, like, Jet Li being, being part of the cast here, Statham being part the cast here, then you get to you get to call back to some of the things that made, like, them so great as if Yeah. Stallone and Lundgren, like, did it.
Jim:Yeah. A ninja movie. With Right. A good old classic eighties ninja movie.
T.C.:Like, Chap saga.
Jim:Yeah. With all those guys in it. What
T.C.:because the thing is that, like, if you do this, if you if you say, hey, this isn't a series. Right? This is an anthology. Okay? This isn't a franchise where you gotta sign up for three movies.
T.C.:Like, you would have the other stars knocking down the door to be a part of this. Mhmm. Short short snake.
Jim:You could do it. You don't have to come up with a backstory or plug them in in a special way.
T.C.:Mhmm. It just it It is. Yeah. Dude, you could get freaking Kurt Russell showing up with an eye patch ready to kick some ass. Right?
Jim:Sure.
T.C.:Yeah. You could get like a you might even be able to get Bruce Willis to care.
Jim:Oh, god. You could visit so many different things. It'd be amazing. Now I'm now imagining Expendables Western.
T.C.:Oh, yes. Like a cowboy Western shoot them up Magnificent Seven style movie? Hell yeah, dude. I'll give you this with the just talking about Bruce Willis, to have him be a traitor in one of these things where he's the one he's committing some sort of robbery. Like like having him be
Jim:Where he's the Hans
T.C.:Gruber. Right? A sports movie. No. See, now I was thinking more like Rocky, but like, this doesn't work.
T.C.:I I I retract the idea that it could be a sports movie because we need to put them in scenarios where they could shoot guns and die. Yep. That's the that is the the we want big blow up action sequences in here. That's what the studio wants. That's what we're gonna give them.
T.C.:So every scenario we throw them in, we don't know who's gonna live and die live or die in these movies.
Jim:Yep.
T.C.:And, yeah, I I think
Jim:That'd be great.
T.C.:You you have an opportunity to have, like, like, Harrison Ford even being like, hey. I want in on this. Okay. Cool. Which which version of your old school characters you wanna play?
T.C.:Let me I don't know. I wanna play Han Solo again even though I killed him off. I think I I think I wanna play Han Solo again. Are you gonna die again? You know, maybe maybe that's what we're thinking.
T.C.:Having a Terminator style sci fi where it's Sure. And maybe that could be part of like the alien one where they're con like you said, like a foreign legion forced into one of them could be a robot. Yeah. You could get freaking Ian Holm to show up and play a robot. Like like, the expendables could be, you know, you sell it on the the big muscle bound stars, but rope in someone like, Lance Hendrickson or
Jim:Oh, of course.
T.C.:Freaking Segoyne Weir Company.
Jim:That's what they did with Eric Roberts. No.
T.C.:It's well, that's so funny. Eric Roberts is such a a shlacky.
Jim:Oh, no. He's he's great. I think he's great. He Yes. He's done a lot of terrible movies.
Jim:But Hey.
T.C.:You know what? In the right and I actually think he knew the movie he was in. In the first Dispensables
Jim:Oh, yeah.
T.C.:Dolph Lundgren and Eric Roberts knew what they were doing. Sure. They weren't there to fluff their egos. Mhmm. They were there.
T.C.:And you know who really knew what they were doing? Van Damme in the second one. Like I don't he plays the he plays the bad guy in the second one.
Jim:Oh, nice. And he
T.C.:does this amazing kill right up front where he, like, stabs Liam Hemsworth in the chest and then, like, uppercut kicks him and like jams the knife through and like, he's got sunglasses on, he's he's having like he knows the movie he's in. And then he got something like Wesley Snipes showing up in the third one, who's like trying to like relive his heyday.
Jim:Sure. Yeah.
T.C.:And it's like, dude, come on. You're you're you're approaching this incorrectly. Yeah. Which is a lot of the problems with The Expendables is that all these guys were trying to recapture their former glory without realizing
Jim:Well, like like this is like this is some sort of double jump. Right? Like, this is, oh, oh, we're we're we're gonna we're gonna that was a dumb analogy. Like like, this is the the the opportunity opportunity to to to re kick start this.
T.C.:Mhmm.
Jim:I just gotta say the line that I said before, and it re relaunches, reignites Yeah.
T.C.:Everyone's gonna
Jim:be a career, but No. No. And I actually think an anthology style movie would be a better opportunity to do that.
T.C.:Certainly. Yeah. Because they get to, like you said, recreate whole hog scenes. Yeah. But doing like, finding a way to because they have, like, going to having freaking Chuck Norris show up and being like, I heard this about him.
T.C.:Oh, I heard this about Like all the Chuck Norris jokes. Mhmm. It's so dumb. Like it's not it's so uninspired. Yeah.
T.C.:And even though we're we're sitting here right now saying like, oh no, we're gonna recreate scenes from these classic '80 movies, eighties movies. I feel like there's an inspired way to do it. Again, I'm gonna go to Gareth Edward Evans as the director of the raid Yeah. As someone who or, you know, John McTiernan. Get get, like, a legit action director in there to make these.
T.C.:Stallone is fine. I don't think Sure. Stallone is the director he wishes he was, and I don't think he directs movies that are as good as they could be. And a perfect example of that is you can look at Rocky Balboa and Creed. Those two movies thematically are are very similar.
Jim:Okay. I haven't seen Creed. Okay. I I I feel like that that's a bit of a sin. Mhmm.
Jim:It is. I really should. You should. But I did see Balboa. Mhmm.
Jim:I actually really liked Balboa, but and and I think this is actually what Stallone's much better at. He he prob he knows how to direct action. He he he can can do it. I I he's serviceable.
T.C.:Yes. Yeah.
Jim:But I actually thought Balboa was a wonderful sunsetting of a character.
T.C.:Right.
Jim:It was it was it was beautiful. I I I really was super impressed by Balboa. Mhmm. But that's not the kind of movie, that's not the kind of and and so he's really good at at directing these scenes of of a of a of an actor acting. Right?
T.C.:Mhmm.
Jim:And that's not really what the eighties action genre was about It's not. Or or what the expendables Should be. Told us it it was gonna deliver. They lied.
T.C.:They lied to us. I will say this. Rocky Balboa is a perfectly fine film, but then you watch Creed, and you go, oh, no. That's how this should have been done. And I and I use that as an example to show that Stallone is is fine.
T.C.:I think he is a serviceable director. When it comes down to, taking his ideas and concepts to their fullest extent to what they should be, talking about expendables, we're seeing this just in this conversation right now. He had a great idea. It was his idea to bring all these guys together. Oh, yeah.
T.C.:And he made demands. The the studio made demands. He made demands to to get us what we got. He wasn't I I am a fan of Stallone. I think he should have won the Oscar, like, for Creed.
T.C.:Like, I'm I'm not besmirching the name Stallone. He's he's a legend of Hollywood. The story of Rocky and how it got made is is inspiring, if anything. But I think that there are and that's why he didn't direct the subsequent films. And the subsequent films do a little bit better in trying to find what we're asking for right now or what we're pitching right now.
Jim:Yeah.
T.C.:So taking him out of the director's chair, but really giving him the vanity project he wants, I think, is the is the key here. If the studio is saying he has to direct, we're gonna get a hell of a good script that Sure. He can't screw up.
Jim:Let's say I think I think the key is is action.
T.C.:Yeah. Yeah. Inspire that's another thing. The quick cuts to hide how these guys can't fight, the CG blood, like, there there is
Jim:Even even that's okay. I I still think all of that is okay. We just need more of the action and and and less of the the talking. Say you're say you're one liners. That's the whole idea.
Jim:It's it's the one liners. Get get to the
T.C.:I don't care about your backstory.
Jim:Get to the expendability.
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T.C.:You liking this idea? Yeah. You like this expendable anthology?
Jim:Very much.
T.C.:Okay. So
Jim:Very much. I we could make so many of these.
T.C.:Yeah. Okay. So, like, let's let's go off of that. So we've already kinda delved into some, like, other topics here. Mhmm.
T.C.:If the first one is the team on a mission and they're going to fail. Right? Like
Jim:No. No. I I think, I don't know if
T.C.:They're gonna die. Yeah. They'll succeed at the cost of their lives because they are expendable. Right? See, this is so I just have be annoyed about Suicide Squad.
T.C.:It's like, don't don't make it seem don't they should die. Like, they their lives should be at risk this entire time, and that bomb in their neck is so, like, arbitrary. It's like, you could just threaten their families and make them come back. The bomb in the neck doesn't mean anything other than the guy who can climb anything. He's dead.
T.C.:Right? Killing them off at like, winning at the at all costs. Like, there is a no we don't believe in no win scenarios. We will get out of we will succeed or die trying. No.
T.C.:We will succeed and die trying. Right? Yeah. So knowing that you know, starting the movie off by saying, oh, no. There's gonna be more of these.
T.C.:You just sit back and watch expendables two's coming in two years. You got it no matter what. And then sitting there and watching the audience like,
Jim:what? Yeah. But I just saw him.
T.C.:Yes. That was so awesome. He went down guns a bit. Oh, yeah. So we're I love the western idea.
T.C.:Mhmm. I love the alien fighting an alien planet idea. Worlds were
Jim:Oh, so many. Well, like, I you you can do a lot of fun things with with sci fi that it really opens things up. So you had mentioned a sports movie and and kinda dismissed it. And for the most part, it would be unless you married it with something weird like sci fi where you say this is some sort of Rollerball. Yeah.
Jim:Something like that. Something where violence is a part of the sport.
T.C.:Yeah. Okay. What about a a tournament movie then? And get Van Damme in here? You got you got Bundler in
Jim:Like a blood sport kind of thing?
T.C.:Like a freaking street fighter here, right? Oh. Yeah. Like giving them character types and like Yeah.
Jim:And having having them So so with expendables and even a lot of these ideas we're talking about, obviously some some would be the villain and stuff like that, but it's mostly been team team movies, right? Yeah. But with what you just said, they're all fighting each other.
T.C.:Yeah. Right? Yeah.
Jim:So we don't know who's someone's gonna win in the end.
T.C.:Who's gonna
Jim:win? Who's gonna no one knows
T.C.:They die in every movie. We don't know who's gonna survive here. How freaking fun that but then
Jim:No. Okay. That that becomes a problem because then egos are gonna be like,
T.C.:oh, yeah. Survives? Who lives? Who survives? In a in a blood sport this point, if we could get to that, whether it's the four, fifth, or
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:Franchise, do you think they would have had enough fun at this point that egos aside, they'd be like, oh, no. I want the good death scene. That's what everyone loves
Jim:Yeah.
T.C.:Is watching the Maybe. In a Street Fighter blood sport style movie, I think bigger is better. I think you go Mortal Kombat Street Fighter ridiculousness. Otherwise, it's it's just people in a ring getting kicked in the Oh, yeah. Well, yeah.
Jim:You you take you take their most iconic characters, you mash them together Mhmm. And you turn them to 11.
T.C.:Yeah. And So it's like like Mortal Kombat, like Street Fighter, they are going to be fighting in various locations with Yep. Various obstacles around them. Mhmm.
Jim:With various weapons.
T.C.:With various weapons. Yeah. But yeah. Who who who lit does Stallone live? Because this is his vanity project.
T.C.:Does he get to win in? Well I go back to that. The cool deaths
Jim:at this point is what try to that's what you try to sell them on. And thus, what I would say, the person who lives is either a CG character who isn't a real person anyway, or or a complete unknown, or or just character you weren't expecting Yeah. To to be yet. So Steven Zahn.
T.C.:Steven Zahn. Of all people, Steve Zahn gets ripped in here. He's just playing his base his character, his rhythm guitar player from that thing you do.
Jim:Yeah. He's like,
T.C.:why do I keep winning?
Jim:Why why am I in a tournament to the death?
T.C.:Okay. So with this, I think just just the fact that we've I mean, you agreed a minute into the into this episode. Like, who else do we get involved here? I'm gonna see Jackie Chan in here.
Jim:Anyone.
T.C.:Get Jackie Chan in here. Right? Cha Young Phat and and is is it Cha Young Phat and Jet Li and Hard Boiled, like, getting those two to team up again?
Jim:Well, Cha Young Phat wasn't Hard Boiled.
T.C.:Yeah. Okay. Having had them come together again and be a team like a duo. Getting freaking Danny Glover over in here, man. Like, bring it in.
T.C.:I'm getting too old for this shit. Like, no. Seriously, I am. I have osteoporosis. I'm 90.
Jim:They went the they went and made a a female's female Expendables. I don't remember the name of it.
T.C.:If it wasn't Expendables, they failed.
Jim:But I remember she was in it. The the person that I think should have been in the Expendables proper was Cynthia Roth Rothrock.
T.C.:Oh, the the kung fu fighting Yeah. Bland lady. Yeah. Oh,
Jim:yeah. And and right? So so so and and all of them.
T.C.:Segourney Weaver, Jamie Curtis, Michelle Rodriguez, Milo Djokovic, like, getting, you know, young and old in here. Yeah.
Jim:Right. Because because the whole the whole point to the expendables was starting with those guys from the eighties, but you can definitely start pulling from more than that. Even even that one Statham. They had more modern yeah. Statham.
Jim:They had MMA fighters.
T.C.:Right. Right. So Get Batista in here, man. Let me see him, like, get the freaking rock in here. Dude, you get the rock on board, you're mean Rock
Jim:Diesel Well, now you're getting Fast and movies.
T.C.:I I don't I don't wanna see Vin Diesel on anytime Vin Diesel makes
Jim:something that Vin Diesel, I still consider him an action. I really No. No. No. Right?
Jim:Like, I still I I I still wanna see more Riddick movies. I don't care what anyone says.
T.C.:I, you know, I wanna see more Riddick movies. Vin Diesel wants to see more Riddick. He has a third script he can't open because David Toohey won't give him the damn key to it. Or fourth script, I guess, at this point. Anyway Yeah.
T.C.:That that said, Vin Diesel, as an action star, works in The Fast and the Furious. That's kinda it. I I you know, we're just talking about Riddick. Riddick's fine. But, like, the triple x movies, no.
T.C.:Season of The Witcher, whatever the Witcher, whatever the
Jim:It wasn't Witcher. That's a thing that's coming out soon with Cavill. Yeah. Superman. Super dud.
Jim:Yeah. Super dud.
T.C.:Super lame.
Jim:That's actually one I wouldn't mind rebooting in in sort of a similar manner. Not not where everyone dies, but it was it was too wordy.
T.C.:Which one?
Jim:I think the the the season of the witch or whatever. The the the hunter. Witch hunter. It's some that one. I think there was something there and it just it just missed it.
T.C.:It's another episode. It is is another that out of the head next step. But getting
Jim:But back to the expendables.
T.C.:Yeah. Rock in there. Oh, yeah. Playing, like, his his rundown character. Because not not playing the
Jim:More rundown.
T.C.:Yeah. Not not playing the unstoppable juggernaut rock that we see in the Fast and the Furious movies. Not playing his, like, his his Ubermensch. Right?
Jim:Playing No. Are you kidding? The egg that's that is that's we need to lean in.
T.C.:Need in. Alright.
Jim:So so you know who he would be. Like like in our tournament movie Mhmm. He's the he's the guy running the thing. He's our m bison.
T.C.:Here's the that's another thing. It's not just selling the the these guys like, hey, get involved with this franchise. You get to die like a badass. It's get involved with this because you could be the villain. Yeah.
T.C.:But being the villain's way more fun. I know, like, these like like I said, Van Damme had a hell of a good time playing the bad guy and too, he can see it
Jim:Yeah.
T.C.:That he's having a great time. And I have to think that these people would have way
Jim:to find a villain? He was the villain in Doom.
T.C.:That's right. Woah. That movie. Suprified, mother okay. What a bad movie.
T.C.:But Carl Urban's in it and he's
Jim:He sure is.
T.C.:Oh, man. Let's take Die Hard esque, right, where, like Yeah. Single location building style
Jim:Sure.
T.C.:And mix it with Judge Dredd Well,
Jim:that's what Judge that's what Dredd
T.C.:will No. That was Dredd. I'm saying Stallone's Judge Dredd. Right? Like, making them a sci fi police force that's gotta take down Nakatomi Tower.
T.C.:Yes. Oh. Isn't this better?
Jim:This is so much fun.
T.C.:Damn it, studio. We are giving everything you want here and more. Make this movie. Yes. Make this entire series.
T.C.:The the rotating directors, the rotating cast, the rotating genres, like, Expendables as a brand is not being utilized to its fullest extent here.
Jim:The the only real problem I can see is anthology franchises don't take off. We gotta make this one take off. Can think of one that has? Right? Halloween was intended to be as such.
T.C.:Give me Michael Mount. Where's the guy in the white mask? Yeah. Who's the guy in the white mask?
Jim:Cloverfield was meant to be that.
T.C.:And then they're like connecting them all. Yeah. I know are
Jim:the those are the two that I definitely know of.
T.C.:Yeah. I I I think there's an opportunity here. If you think of in terms of and I know, like, this it's so easy to go back to this in terms of discussing franchises. The success of something like the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Don't try not trying to replicate that.
Jim:Oh, no. Definitely not.
T.C.:And I and I
Jim:like This is almost the opposite
T.C.:of that. Yeah. And that's that's the the key there. It's like, we're not we're gonna we're creating something, you know, listen to us studio, listen to us Stallone. You're creating an app you're creating something that has succeeded in television, like the American Horror Stories.
T.C.:Mhmm. Each season, you know, stands alone with that look like maybe a single callback here and there.
Jim:Yeah. Well, and I think that's a really good model. That that itself, if I understand right, was pretty revolutionary as well. I can't think of another show that was that did a season a serialized season and then did a new one. I know there's, like, there there have been anthology shows like Twilight Zone and and things like Every episode's different.
Jim:But
T.C.:This is the same the intent of prison break was initially going to be every season was gonna be a new prison with a new cast. And then as they approached the end of season one, Fox TV was like, Dominique Purcell and Wentworth Miller are really hot right now, so you need to rewrite your ending to this season so we can have two more seasons of this or further. And so then they pivoted on the last episode to, like, to be continued, and it was not good. Not good. But to say into the studio, it's like, look, you're you're the hell out of this to be able to say, hey, we're gonna give you every eighties movie you didn't know you wanted again or the ones that you did want again.
Jim:And contracts also become interesting because the movies won't actually be continuing, so you don't have to worry about continuing characters. So someone wants out. If that wasn't for them
T.C.:yeah. And someone wants in, you got them in because it's never gonna be like, oh, what happened to so and so? Who gives it go watch the last movie. They're dead. Or they got to live happily ever after
Jim:Yeah.
T.C.:Watching the sunset. Get your ass to Mars. Like, I'm just thinking the sci fi one. Yeah. There's this would be fun.
T.C.:I I I don't know what else we could even offer the studio that they would that they would I don't know about that. Like, what what more is there to this?
Jim:The only the only issue I can see
T.C.:I got it. We're good. Yep.
Jim:Is that they don't like the idea of big name actors dying.
T.C.:Well, that's
Jim:because for a long time, that that's like a super taboo thing to do. Right? But I think now, like so the initial thing you said was making this back in 2010. Right. Even then, actually, I think it had started fading.
Jim:The idea of there are there's star power that you just you can't Can't kill it? Yeah. I think that's that's kinda over and done with. I think you can now.
T.C.:Yeah. So maybe in 2010, this would be the hard sell. But because we're not even looking at the hate like, Marvel Cinematic. Think still kind of
Jim:a hard sell. Yeah. But I I think that's that's the main hurdle is is convincing the studio and convincing those actors To die. Yeah.
T.C.:Yeah. Okay. Okay. That that fair enough. Because honestly, I guess I'm thinking in terms of now.
T.C.:It'd really easy to sell this idea now. But I did say we're flashing back to 2010, so there's the you're right. That's a huge obstacle to get around. And I think that contracting these guys for three movies right out of the gate, but explaining to them, it's like, no. No.
T.C.:Think like the original Indiana Jones. You can watch those three in any order and and really fluffing their ego in terms of you get to be the best version of yourself. Live or die, you're coming back for two more of these. Mhmm. And because this is especially in 2010, but still to this day now, because they're proving this with The Fast and the Furious right now, guess what?
T.C.:If we make one of these, the expendables
Jim:Mhmm.
T.C.:And then subtitle. Right? Mhmm. If in one of these, Statham and Lundgren survive and they are huge hits in this in movie x, guess what? Spin off.
T.C.:Yeah. Because now you can have what freaking Star Wars ended up doing, which is your episodes and your anthology movies. So you can
Jim:be The way they have Star Wars story.
T.C.:Yeah. Yep. So now you have The Expendables Presents, Lundgren and Statham playing replaying their characters here.
T.C.:Mhmm.
T.C.:Because not not only that, man, 02/2010, we're jumping ahead. Like, we're we're beating Marvel Cinematic Universe to the punch at this point. It's like, look, they're gonna die. But if they don't die, we can do a spin off. And now, you're playing with two franchises because that spin off movie might be good enough to get a sequel.
T.C.:Sure. You can just keep going that way. Mhmm. Well, you got Lundgren over here replaying this character with Statham again and again. Mhmm.
T.C.:They can still be in the next expendables movies as a different character. Mhmm. You know, you could build an entire studio around the expendables. Do it, studio. You know, it's funny because I I I was I'm I essentially offered this to you.
T.C.:So I'm convinced.
Jim:It's okay. It's
T.C.:So so, yeah, what else what else do do play with here?
Jim:Oh, I I just wanna make
T.C.:You just wanna make a new version.
Jim:I just wanna make new versions. Right? Like like what other genre do a war movie? Oh, like Yeah. Pick almost any war?
T.C.:And just stick them in there. Like, I I would go World War two.
Jim:Yeah. Right? Like, a a a Saving Private Ryan, Dirty Dozen kinda thing.
T.C.:It's gotta be Vietnam if we're playing the eighties.
T.C.:Pretty good.
T.C.:Like, I think the heyday of Vietnam films was definitely the coming out of Vietnam and those filmmakers. So, like, seventies, eighties. Yeah. You make a Vietnam movie. Dirty Dozen is what you just said.
T.C.:Yeah. Yeah. God. It's so cool. Gosh.
Jim:Oh, would that it'd be weird to see these guys in it, but it would be awesome to see just like a blood soaked gangster movie.
T.C.:Oh. Like Tommy guns, like Yeah. How ridiculous would they look in those suits? Just like these big beefed out guys in like Actually, they'd
Jim:look pretty awesome, actually.
T.C.:I mean, like, what was it?
Jim:Gay because I I can
T.C.:Gay what was that one with bro Brolin and Ryan Gosling? Mob mob mob. Everyone's yelling at me
Jim:right now.
T.C.:Like, just Google it.
Jim:A gangster. Bruce Bruce Willis was in a gangster mobster slash western
T.C.:Last Man Standing, which is a remake of your Jimbo. Mhmm.
Jim:Yeah. Stallone. I mean, it was a comedy, but he was a was the one where he was a mob boss.
T.C.:Stop her. My mom will shoot.
Jim:No. No. He's a cop in that one.
T.C.:Cop in my mom will shoot.
Jim:Oh, yeah.
T.C.:Yeah. That was
Jim:Yeah.
T.C.:That was the name of it. Gang movie. You know who
Jim:Alright. We're gonna we're gonna we're gonna alright. Fine.
T.C.:I'm just gonna look it up. Yeah. Gangster Squad. Okay. Yeah.
T.C.:There we go. A gangster movie, a cowboy movie, I'm all in on this. This is great. Okay. So actually, I'm curious to see of the episodes we've done so far, though I really like Die Hard, I had a lot of fun with the dark universe.
T.C.:This one's the possibility of this one is the most fun.
Jim:Oh, yeah. I think of them, this is this would actually be the most uphill battle.
T.C.:That's yeah. You're right. Because we're we are we're not necessarily meeting the studio demands per se, because I think we are, but we're putting that angle of killing these people off is the hardest the hardest sell here. It's the hardest sell now, it'd be even harder in 2010. Yeah.
T.C.:It's and it's and, you know, recording this now, it'd be even more difficult because these guys are getting up there. They'll be getting a bit long in the tooth, if you will.
Jim:Yeah. Well, so he's apparently been more than one. Stallone was in a movie called Capone. He played Frank Nitty.
T.C.:Frank Nitty.
Jim:But that's not the one I'm thinking of.
T.C.:I'm Man, you know Gotta be there. You know what could've happened in 2010 if this if we had gotten this off the ground and much the studio's demand.
Jim:What's that?
T.C.:2010, maybe 2012, if that first one was a massive success. Maybe if you wanna push it to 2014 for like a third one, we coulda got Sean Connery out of retirement, I think. Yeah. If this was if this was everything, it could be.
Jim:Oh, sure.
T.C.:Yeah. One more time. Just even if he's, like, on a
T.C.:screen being, your mission should you choose to accept it, which I know is from a completely different franchise than the one I was a part of, but you know what I'm trying to say here.
Jim:Oscar. Stallone was in a movie called Oscar where he
T.C.:played He's the guy. Okay. I was like, I don't think this is winning any Oscars, Jim.
T.C.:Actually, the movie's done.
T.C.:Okay. I can imagine, like, a Mad Max.
Jim:Yes. Yes. Can.
T.C.:The Expendables. Oh, so good. So the Fury Road we got in this hypothetical in 20 hypothetical where we created The Expendables. Yeah. Then George Miller would have came in and be like, oy, we got no day.
T.C.:So what do you think, listeners? The Expendables, are you on board? Have we met all the studio demands? Are we missing something that the studio would ask of us? That's something we didn't talk about with the dark universe last week.
Jim:Oh, that's true.
T.C.:I I I didn't throw it out there to the listeners, and I'm sure people hit up the comment section to let us know. But is there a demand that the studio would ask in this scenario that we're missing? So if you wanna hit up the comment section wherever you might be listening to this or or you can tweet at me, which I will relay to Jim Yes. Because you still don't have
Jim:to because I live under a rock. It's a nice rock.
T.C.:Yeah. Yeah. I I I wanna know if we've missed anything because I think we've paid what could possibly be one of the greatest franchises. Oh, yeah. Is that too big of a you know, this is a movie built upon ego.
T.C.:So, yeah, with that said, I think we absolutely have a better movie for just the first Expendables Mhmm. With the possibility of more than what we got. Yeah. Because I don't know about you that first Expendables in theory was a great idea, but in execution, was like, nope. Yeah.
T.C.:Not what I wanted. But yeah. Let's let's it is a little shorter than the last episodes, unless you have something you wanna add to the Expendables here.
Jim:No. No. No. I don't
T.C.:I don't think you wanna do something. Okay. Good. So we'll do all the social stuff. So like I said, you can comment below if you have any ideas we might have missed here.
T.C.:If you wanna challenge us on anything, hit us up there. If you have any questions from previous episodes, Jim, I'm actually gonna pitch this to you on the spot because we are I'm gonna, collect comments and questions. Right? Oh, yeah. And so when we hit, like, maybe every every tenth episode or so Sure.
T.C.:We'll just do a question and answer, like a q and a
Jim:Oh, sure. And revisit. What what you what you just brought up, the the notion that somebody might have, well, the studio demands this thing or you forgot about this or I figured we'd we'd talk about those things as as well that we don't we don't even necessarily have to save them. Yeah. Probably shouldn't be mentioning that now.
Jim:There's a sort of a formatting thing we should probably discuss
T.C.:off the phone. You bring a fair point. It's not just challenging us on the the episodes you've heard so far, but if you have any ideas for the future and you wanna throw us at an episode topic for us in the future, then feel free to comment that as well. Or if you want, you can tweet at me. I'm on Twitter and Instagram, at t c's big head.
T.C.:Jim, you can also reach through me at t c's big head. Get a Twitter. Damn it. You said you do have one.
Jim:Yeah. I don't remember that. It's probably super generic. It's it's not at Jim, but it's probably pretty close
T.C.:to that. Pretty close to that. Alright. And, quick shout out to Six Five, Media. Check out everything they're doing.
T.C.:I think, we had a Zelda podcast, promo on this one, if not the last episode. So check out everything there as well as some cool video content. It's not just podcasts here that they do. Oh, no. No.
T.C.:No. There's video content as well. You can check out a much more concise version of essentially what this show is with my YouTube series or my video series, steal this idea, which is similar to this where I'm gonna be I pitch something at you as fast as I can, so you can go check out that as well. So yeah. Jim, we did it.
T.C.:We did. We did. Cool.
Jim:We made yet another amazing
T.C.:know, in in quantum theory, any possibility that can happen does happen. So out there in the universe, we've created a tangential break off of the timeline where this does exist. We've willed it to happen somewhere in the in the in the universe in the infinite possibilities.
Jim:I will sleep well tonight.
T.C.:Alright. Well, tune in next episode where Jim is gonna be in the studio demanding something of us. I'm very curious to what you you follow-up with. It keeps you're, like, freaking out. Yeah.
Jim:Yep. I am.
T.C.:Oh god.
Jim:Oh god.
T.C.:That's why I made a list. I just randomly scroll through it. There we go. Alright. So with that said, that's it for the episode.
T.C.:I am TC.
Jim:I am Jim.
T.C.:And that's it.
Jim:The studio demanded it. Yeah. That's not that's not That's it. Yep.
T.C.:That's that's the end of the episode.
Jim:Yeah. I'm I'm not gonna do that again.
T.C.:Bye, Jim. Bye.